Recalled Account Max TH10 Recalled - Seller Alex Williams

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    A Max TH10 was stolen from me, I estimated the value at $500.

    Just like you did in November, you are turning this around on me, like I did something wrong. And I will say it again, I did nothing wrong here. I held up my end of the trade and provided a safe account along with a $75 payment. The account you provided me was recalled.

    You've spent alot of your time criticizing my claim. When are you going to start spending time to resolve the issue?
     
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    So I was supposed to work on this for 5 months even though you didn't contact me at all? You didn't think maybe a 2 minute conversation was worthwhile before placing the claim. Also you estimating the value of a claim isn't the way it works. Just another example of you just overstating the facts to try to take advantage of the situation. I will post to the admin the name, address, Google locator, and information of the person who claims he bought the account from you.

    The fact that you selectively didn't post those chats where that was discussed leads me to believe that there was merit to it as I thought back then. But the admin can decide and I suggest we let him ok it out. I will post my information to him and he can decide what to share. I don't like putting all of my info out there.

    In terms of the this chat the moment you "told" me to "Do this immediately" you lost my interest entirely. I will post for the admin in the next day or two and you can deal with him. Thanks and have a great day.
     
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    My last point with the admin will be this post. This was your last Kik with me which you selectively cut off in your posts. You correctly apologize for being an asshole and then say there is nothing more to do and thank me for helping you. Then there is no more communication. So you are saying after this and with no more communication I should have known to work more. I will post this and a bunch more with admin. You had a bad transaction with another buyer. Sorry it happened but your dishonesty here proved it to me.

    I can't wait to hear your lie on why you didn't show this last Kik and how you explain how I was supposed to follow up after this. That combined with the lies about your $500 claim (first it was how much the TH9 was worth then it is what a th10 is worth) just sad.

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    Thank you for shaing any and all information you have. I look forward to resolving this issue quickly.
     
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    Surprised with all my transactions I still had your thread? I guess you cut off your Kik for some other reason than your apology and in your very last Kik thanking me... Then 5 months later criticizing me for not knowing I should have been working on this.

    How about this... You saw another public chat that the admin allowed for calemkem inviting me. You saw that he recalled my account and said hey maybe I can throw a complaint out. You put an outrageous price on the claim and pointed to this other problem. Liars always have their stories fall apart.

    Why did you cut your last message off and how was I to know I needed to help after that message.
     
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    Good thing I'm not telling stories then. You traded me an account that was recalled. You have taken no responsibility for that and still refuse to do so.

    I have been professional with you throughout. You call me a liar and an asshole while throwing false accusations and theories at me. Again, I look forward to resolving this issue quickly.

    Thanks again bro.
     
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    "I wanna apologize bro"
    "I really appreciate everything you've done so far"
    "I'm just stressed out over this whole thing"
    "I'll keep trying again with Google"
    "Thanks again for helping"

    Those are your chats. Then silence then this.

    Good luck.
     
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    Thanks
     
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    We have opened a 3 way conversation ticket with the 2 of you per your request.
     
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    @Admin Any further guidance on this dispute? Alex has stopped responding to the 3-way ticket. I've provided all the information that has been requested of me.

    Thank you
     
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    "Alex has stopped responding" another typical statement that is nothing more than a transparent attempt to gain some measure of implied deception. What exactly should I have been responding too? What open questions are for me?

    Would it have been just as valid for me to write that 5 minutes before you did? No because there was no next step. I'm fine with you asking for an update but your again throwing me into your problem is systematic of your overall issues. You sold an account. Now you are blaming me. I will wait for admin to weigh in.
     
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    Alex, you requested that we move this into a private conversation which I agreed to.

    I am now asking admin for an update. Simple.

    "You sold an account. Now you are blaming me."

    That is a ridiculous statement. I traded an account plus cash to you and you provided me an account. The account you traded me was recalled. Your stance that I am lying and actually sold the account on this site is absurd.

    Here is the login information that was stolen from me:

    email: [email protected]
    pw: easyaspie

    If I sold this account to someone on this site as Alex claims, whoever that person is should open a dispute against me for sharing the account's login information on a public thread.

    Alex, you said you have that person's contact information. That's the same information I've asked you for over and over. That's exactly the information you would not provide in our private conversation. Contact them, have them reply to this thread and call me out here, in a public thread, for being a liar.

    I would like to finally meet this person I supposedly "sold" this account to.
     
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    Anyone can click on my profile and view all of the threads I started on this site:

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    The results show threads all the way back to September 2015. You traded me this account October 2015.

    Where is the thread I posted selling this account? It's not there because it doesn't exist. I never sold it. It was stolen from me. I've said this from the start.

    Calemkem sold you accounts that were recalled. You held him responsible.

    You traded me an account that was recalled. I fully believe you are responsible.
     
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    That way, he use its with all account hight price.
    He can buy and sell its. After he tell seller # account
    I think with all proof for @maniacmat77 .
    if he can't win in this case
    i will think have problem with forum
    Its same my dispute but i haven't proof much same @maniacmat77
    Sad , i very tired with its . i accept with request for admin
    But you help me sure @Alex Williams scamed
    i dont trust , he have 2 dispute in one time and same problem
     
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    Do you guys think you help or hurt your credibility teaming together. Two dishonest people don't help each other's case. One is posting the login info for the account in public many times and is wondering why his account was taken. The other admits the account was taken but says he wasn't responsible. Guys I will wait for the admin to deal with both of you.
     
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    I have no problem posting that information because the account was stolen from me. I never sold this account to anyone. You've called me dishonest and a liar. You have an easy opportunity to prove I'm a liar on a public thread.

    Share the the proof you were provided that I "sold" this account. Identify the thread I used to "sell" this account. Notify the mystery person I "sold" this account to and provide the proof I sold this account.

    Of course you won't do any of these things because you don't want to "waste your time", but still have plenty of time to type out multiple posts calling me a liar and how much you dislike me.

    The account you traded me was recalled. You are responsible.
     
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    I posted the proof for the admin. You know this and you are upset I won't post it for you here. The admin has all the information. You have seen the kik's. Look I'm not interested in a back and forth. There are pages of discussion on this. The admin will make his call.
     
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    Alex, thank you for providing that important information to the Admin. I asked for that information in the private conversation and you refused to share it there as well.

    I did not know that step was taken as that was not posted in the 3-way conversation and you stated you would not provide any information I asked for.
     
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