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    Please fill out all 9 questions below. You must provide proof or your claim cannot be validated.

    1. Date Dispute Happened
    Example: December 15, 2024

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    I'm the Buyer

    3. Total Transaction Value
    $40 USD

    4. Other Parties Username
    https://www.playerup.com/members/1801910/

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
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    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
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    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
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    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
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    Seller instructed payment to be made to a third party vendor.
    Seller claims third party vendor decided to scam after receiving payment

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    User was alerted about the payment methods but then insisted on paying through payment method I didn't had & alerted him I will be using Paxful for exchanging the currency, yet he was impatient & went on sending the wrong amount to the Paxful seller & not seeing my message thus the seller happening to not release the crypto cause it's his fault, there's nothing much more to say, he axed his own legs ☺
     
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    "User was alerted about the payment methods but then insisted on paying through payment method I didn't had & alerted him I will be using Paxful for exchanging the currency"

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    ^ He provided the method and i sent to the account he instructed. In fact he is the one who later asked what payment method i have. if he is not familiar or does not have he could have simply said so no one forced/coerced him not to mention the initial amount that he quoted was incorrect to begin with. He should be responsible for what he sells and not abscond from any accountability.

    "I will be using Paxful for exchanging the currency, yet he was impatient & went on sending the wrong amount to the Paxful seller & not seeing my message thus the seller happening to not release the crypto cause it's his fault"

    How am i supposed to know the seller could/did not work out the currency correctly. he should have omitted and simply state the only exact currency/amount the other party was to receive else whats the point of him quoting in a different currency/value to begin with just to say its wrong later. again there is no way know what terms and issues were being discussed between him and the other party he should be the one who knows better.

    As mentioned/shown above , assuming he did actually deal with the third party on paxful then there should be chat logs/records available and he could have opened a dispute which he did not and made claims about some loophole on their website where the third party seller could exploit and decide to scam, he did not provide any evidence at all. How true his narrative no one knows and now I am expected to take his word for it since he does not even show anything. Now that things went wrong for him and that the vendor decides to scam it becomes my responsibility?
    Regardless nearly the full sum have already been transferred and now he says third party vendor can conveniently get away with a loophole in that website and simply wash his off the matter. whatever happened over there i have no idea and shouldnt be my problem i have already made payment on my part. even if i were to give him the benefit of doubt that he had no intent to scam and it is truly the third party refusing to cooperate. its hard to believe the website will simply allow them to get away with it without any repercussion that is beyond me since by that logic anyone can scam regardless of the terms/amount if they wanted to and how is it my fault that whoever he deal with decides to scam?? . How do you expect to convince others to buy such ludicrous story ?

    he says he cant share anything citing chat closed.
    at this point its reasonable to believe either he intended to scam and made things up or realised he messed up and now attempting to push the blame onto others in order to avoid being held accountable

    Would request to see proof from seller end.

    if he provides a channel he has to be responsible for it and not run away when problem arise. he is not being truthful and has something to hide . its clear he mishandled the situation and needs to take responsibility
     
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    As @Samstore hasn't replied, we have had to suspend their account.
     
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    It's bs, I warned the user to pay exactly same amount & in time , I already said the user the payment methods I had but he insisted on 3rd party payment which I don't take responsibility of, it's his fault, he should better read paxful tos... It's false accusation
     
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    please stop creating false narrative if you are unable to back it up.
    The seller said they can do remitly and i followed what they instructed. whichever 3rd party platform/vendor you choose to deal with isn't my responsibility
    seller's strawman argument merely serving as a distraction. if people wanted to scam they will regardless of the platform/terms. If you do not know what you are selling then don't sell. If you made a mistake just say so and not blame others.
     
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    Again the seller is unable to substantiate his claims

    "It's bs, I warned the user to pay exactly same amount & in time , I already said the user the payment methods I had but he insisted on 3rd party payment which I don't take responsibility of"

    He provided the payment method,no one is holding them at gunpoint to deal , they have every right to deal or refuse on their own terms and I could have simply looked for someone else instead of wasting my time and money. Seller did not warn/mention about any issue until his supplier scammed him. If he provide the quote in my local currency, then its only logical for me to follow it. how would anyone know what the actual terms are. it could have been any amount/time and they will still scam. Whoever he deals with chooses to scam has nothing to do with me, if anything they should be more prudent when choosing suppliers

    " it's his fault, he should better read paxful tos... It's false accusation"

    It is not on me to know or take charge of whichever 3rd party/platform supplier you deal with, the onus is on him the seller to take responsibility for what they sell and resolve the issue and not washing their hands off the matter and making excuses if their supplier scammed them
     
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    Ironic how he accuses others of making "false accusation" when he is guilty of doing it to others on another thread. (just look up his post history)

    Nevertheless as this conversation is not going anywhere and before this seller regurgitate 'bs' for the last time:

    1)Seller provided the payment method
    2)Seller provided wrong quote
    3)Seller later claims amount is wrong and his "vendor" decides to scam and then blame others <- please show proof or are you going say your so called "supplier/ paxful terms" vanished into thin air?? Please show this proof of their "tos" that you bring up. ( I fail to see how this is relevant and becomes my fault anyway but ok)

    He is the one who is supposed to know better since he is the one actually dealing with them yet it looks like he doesnt know what he is doing? My only responsibility is to make payment based on what he quoted, after all i am not the one to deal with them. There is no way and neither is it reasonable for others to know about paxful and what was communicated over there much less for the him to prove it now since his argument is that there is no record of the transaction. What is evident at the very least is that his supplier scammed according to him (if what he says is to be trusted) so how is it others fault if he deals with a scammer. How can he say he takes no responsibility for it? It is appalling despite all this he blames everyone but himself.

    Whatever point he has made in his defence so far has been questionable since he failed to provide any evidence to justify. After all thats said either this seller doesnt get it or he is taking others for a fool. He could have very well fabricated this since he has not shown any proof. The correct thing for them to do at this point is to admit it is an honest oversight rather than weasle their way out of this (This assuming he is clean and had not lied about anything up to this point which i highly doubt)

    If the seller is still going to insist that it is my fault, then yes I can agree its my fault for even dealing with this scammer seller in the first place.

    Since its apparent seller has neither come clean nor willing to work things out, believe this has gone on for too long and would request that a decision be made promptly to save everyone's time. @Hulk
     
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