Stole Money SCAM REPORT AGAIN user @Cancara

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  1. Chicken cock

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    Here's his profile:
    https://www.playerup.com/members/cancara.243686/

    1. Date Dispute Happened
    June 23 , 2018

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    I'm the buyer.

    3. Total Transaction Value
    Example: $45 USD Bitcoin equivalence

    4. Other Parties Username
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    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    Bitcoin

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    [email protected]

    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
    3Dja1A5TAXCFykBK7MkE4taBEofdZGaFBU

    This is the address he provided, which I sent the btc too
    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    ika0900, ika09 or his discord username which is ika09#8664
    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below


    I was trying to buy a combat arms account from this guy, here's the original thread (  Sold - LTG/ 1.2M GOLD/ FULL SPD | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform. ) , after I paid him, I asked him for the original email addresses access so he couldn't change the password or regain access to the account after it has been transferred to my credentials. So I just changed it to my own regardless and after a few days, he changes the password and email back to his own. I can confirm this as I've typed the email that he uses to contact people from and the username came up for the account I purchased, which essentially means he scammed me by taking my money and taking the account back. Here is the conversation on discord ( )

    and here is where I contacted him from and where the deal initially started ( )

    I hope that'll be enough to bring this scumbag to justice and get banned or at least refund all the people he has scammed. Thank you.
     
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    @cancara

    Dispute against you.

    Please post here.
     
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    can you please ban this member or tell him to return my funds back, I've shown everything needed, he's trying to avoid this and knows he's wrong and tries to divert the scenario.
     
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    Now suspended until he responds.
     
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    i have no connection to that deal. i was asked to put his acc for sale from my playerup account cus i'm verified, even did not knew if it was sold, cus he had not told me anything and the acc was not sold on playerup.. im putting sometimes other guys post for selling+ using midleman service and taking a look here on playerup who is buying and for how much e.t.c cus verification costs 20 usd.. ... i understand "the buyers" situation but i have no reach what is going on outside from playerup.. and i have not got his money. the money and account owner is(was) the guy behind this gmail. [email protected]
     
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    You're responsible for the accounts you sell under PlayerUp.
     
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    im responsible when i have contact to buyer here, on playerup and if the buyer purchases account here, on playerup. im not responsible what he is doing outside from this site, or what kind of conversation he has. also playerup do suggest us to buy accounts from this website using middleman service for safety, so do I. i'm putting "buy now" link to all my posts so the customer could buy it here. not outside of this website!
    also made my research. this guy, the "sufferer" has spammed here and on other websites where was posted same threat like me ( its up to acc owners choice to put accounts on different websites.) should i believe that he first found selling offer just here on playerup or on other website ? of course i don't believe. and there cant be any "evidence" of this..



    YES. I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACCOUNT I'M SELLING UNDER MY PLAYERUP WHICH WAS SOLD ON THIS WEBSITE.

    HE COULD USE THIS WEBSITE FOR SAFETY AND PLAYERUP IS TELLING SAME THAT IT'S SAFE TO SELL/BUY HERE. AND I WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO REFUND MONEY, IT WAS MY ACCOUNT OR SOME OTHER GUYS DOESN'T MATTER. ITS THE BUYERS FAULT NOT MINE. I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG.
     
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    What are you talking about? You sold him an account for BTC. And he no longer has access to that account. He gave you an nonrefundable method of payment - so you have the money.

    What threat can he give you? He does not have the account, and he gave you the money.

    You have to either refund the user, or give him the product you promised him.

    You can't just sell an account, recover it and keep the money because he didn't use middleman via the website. You're using this platform as a means of advertisement for your accounts - so you'll be upheld to those standards. Who cares if this sale didn't come from PlayerUp.
     
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    what im talking about ? do you read correctly what im saying ? or just responding automatically?
    TOLD you im not the owner of account. and this buyer did not bought account from my ""store"". the seller has same selling offers on other ""account selling"" websites too. what the buyer bought, outside from website its buyers business not mine.
    business is mine when the buyer buy account from my ""store" !!
     
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    Here is the e-mail he was speaking with: [email protected]

    Here is your post stating your e-mail:

    [​IMG]

    I've looked into you, and you've been selling this account on countless websites under different e-mails and have negative feedbacks on all of them. Even on PlayerUp, you've changed your e-mail over 4 times.

    Do you have anything else you'd like to add?

    The user he was speaking with is you. Why you're lying about it is odd.
     
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    sure i do! that's same persons game account for different game. and told you im putting different ppls accounts sometimes for selling. and what kind of feedback he has on other websites i don't care. im responsible just for playerup business !
     
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    If you scam outside of PlayerUp, you aren't allowed to be here. Why are you lying? Let me link these accounts to you.

    [​IMG]

    This is you on NPC, selling the same exact with the same e-mail + Discord ID.

    It's using the same exact imgur that you're using on PlayerUp - so you're the person he was speaking too. You scammed him.

    There's two options -

    1). Paying the user back.

    or

    2). Giving the user the account he paid for.
     
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    are u really listening to me what im talking ?
    yes that the guy whose account i had posted on my store. and i had made research and he had more posts on other selling websites. different accounts. and that's not my business. he asked me to post damn account for sale just cus of verification. cus it cost 20 usd. im not medium or wizard to know is hi scammer on not.

    im not responsible to refund money of account which was not sold on my store. go and him about it. not me. if the account was sold there using my playerup then yes. i would refund money without saying anything. but there is nothing my fault.
     
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    You are responsible to refund the money. You sold it, you got the money... you talked to him on your e-mail, you talked to him on your discord.

    And most of all, it is YOUR account that you sold. You're just lying saying it isn't - I could link over 20 of your accounts on other websites all stating you're a scammer but I can't be bothered since you'll just lie as you are now. Even on PlayerUp, people call you out for what you do... Sell the account, and get it back via Facebook.

    It's pitiful...

    Sold - Level 70 account , Vip 7, 60 T2 characters | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

    He calls you out on it, and you close the thread and make a new one.

    Disgusting. Same thing you do here.

    [​IMG]
     
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    U'r blaming me, treating me! without any evidence. im verified on this website. and i have uploaded my id on this website. check it. the go and ask the buyer if my and the sold accounts information is SAME!
    i will report you for treating and blaming me without any reason!!!
     
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    I have given all the proof in this thread and the countless people who have said you scammed them. I have linked you to the user OP was speaking with via E-mail and Discord with matching #'s - yet you claim you aren't him.

    P.S - the deal went through BITCOIN... you can't see "information" on bitcoin.

    This is my last reply to you. You're a person without a soul, and it's a shame to see how desensitized you are to scamming people out of their money.
     
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    @Middleman @Admin

    This user states [email protected] is the account that got the money, not him. So he talked to him via that e-mail, and even sent him his Discord to then talk more.

    Sold - LTG/ 1.2M GOLD/ FULL SPD | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

    Guess what e-mail that is? And look at the comment right below it calling him a scammer. Then he closes it.

    Or this: Sold - 200+ days 32Lvl 5* rosters | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

    Or this variation( S instead of an N )- [email protected] Sold - Lvl 66 / 20+ T2 / 2K+ Crystal | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

    This is 100% infallible proof this user is 1). not bright 2). the person behind the e-mail.

    Either way, let's say it actually isn't him(impossible) - he's putting up accounts he doesn't own, and telling them to e-mail someone else. He's using his reputation to garner sales for someone else. If something goes wrong, it's on him not the other person. So his logic makes no sense, no matter what he's the one to blame. But this was redundant since this guy is a blatant scammer with his 200 e-mail addresses.
     
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    thats ur personal opinion and ur personal truth, what u believe and what don't. so as i, im living with my rights and truth, and i do believe that i have no business to this particular moment. im telling you that, that ika09/ika0900 et.c. is different person. also saying you .. check my ID and ask the buyer what is the account information he owned (if he remembers) you have no rights to judge me what kind person im. i understand what is ur "job" and that now ur playing "good guy" and ur helping here ppl.. but saying once more that ur talking about different guy and i have no business here, and there is not my fault. believe it or not its ur choice.
     
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