Exploiting Email and Account Transaction ID: 2550474929

Discussion in 'Disputes - Banned Scammers' started by ts3, 12/9/18.

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  1. ts3

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    • Behavior/Aggressive/Threatening - Inappropriate
    1. Date Dispute Happened
    December 6, 2018

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    I am the buyer.

    3. Total Transaction Value
    $50 USD

    4. Other Parties Username
    HyperBeastPlays
    https://www.playerup.com/members/hyperbeastplays.361534/

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    Skrill

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    [email protected]
    -This is the email I was given access to

    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    HyperBeastPlays#8881 on discord.

    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below
    I was given the email of the account on the 27th of November 2018. Screenshot by Lightshot
    I logged in to the world of tanks account and changed info and set up 2-step auth, linked my own email etc.
    A few days ago the email was taken back and today the WOTB account was taken back as well. Screenshot by Lightshot
    Now the user insists that it was not him but a hacker who used his information to recover the accounts with support tickets Screenshot by Lightshot


    I assume that my money is gone, that is to be expected, I would just like to see this user banned and his payment info blacklisted from receiving payouts so that he does not make new accounts.
     
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    Hi, I would like to confirm that I am working with the buyer to get the info handed back over
     
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    There is no reason to blacklist me or do anything at all in that manner to prohibit my abilities.
     
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    Just a heads up I have no relations to what happened with the account at all, I don't even have the app and I don't have control of the email at all. He has no proof that it is me, but like I said I am trying my best help get this account back and make sure he is satisfied.
     
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    He also screenshotted the chat to use it against me with his false allegations, that here by breaks personal privacy laws in multiple places in the world and one of them is Canada, in Canada you can not screenshot or do anything to infringe on personal privacy i.e recording, screenshotting, taking a picture of personal chats or any chat logs on any platform. I would like for him to remove these screenshots as they are infringing on my personal privacy and also he is using them in a defamatory way, the definition of defamation is here: the action of damaging the good reputation of someone; slander or libel. So therefore he is also committing another act that is punishable and not acceptable, those screenshot show no proof that I have take the account into my hands. It only proves that it has been taken by someone. I have my own personal proof that I have handed over the account and that I don't have it. I have also sent in a report to Wargaming the owner of World of Tanks blitz, I wish better for the fellow who is going through this but he needs to not do these actions in a not so defamatory way and not by sending in screenshots that I have not approved of and that don't follow any laws or codes in any country in the worlds laws. I would like to inform you that yes I have spent the money that has been given to me but it was not used in a nonsensical way, it was used in a sense able way. So I have no way to compensate for what has happened. I also would like to form you that my main account had been # just 2 days after I handed the other account over, this account had all of the major information on it and he said this to me on discord "
    damn buddy you really trying to take the acc back huh

    December 9, 2018


    [5:13 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    What do you mean?



    [5:13 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Legit dont have any clue.



    [5:14 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Whats happening with it?



    [5:16 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Explain please, nothing has been done since Ive handed over the acc



    [5:16 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    @TS BANG



    [5:20 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Bro, brief me on the situation



    [5:21 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Readd me, I unadded tons of peeps to make my list clean



    [5:26 PM]ts BANG:
    email and wotb acc was taken back



    [5:27 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    I have no access to them, I don't have the app either.



    [5:28 PM]ts BANG:
    just doesnt add up



    [5:28 PM]ts BANG:
    im making a claim on playerup regardless



    [5:30 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Well, I have no relation to anything that has happened, idk what playerup will be able to do sorry :/ I can send proof that I dont have access or the app anymore



    [5:31 PM]ts BANG:
    probs just ban u



    [5:32 PM]ts BANG:
    and withhold any payments if there are any to be made



    [5:32 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Everything has went through already



    [5:32 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    [​IMG]


    [5:32 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    See no email



    [5:33 PM]ts BANG:
    i dont see how thats proof lol just remove acc before screenshot and its done



    [5:33 PM]ts BANG:
    and since the acc was taken back with a support ticket



    [5:33 PM]ts BANG:
    i know it has to be you



    [5:33 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Anyone can send them



    [5:33 PM]ts BANG:
    nobody else has the actual info on acc purchases and acc registration lol



    [5:34 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    And claim to be me



    [5:34 PM]ts BANG:
    and to prove that they would need your info



    [5:34 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    They dont require that



    [5:34 PM]ts BANG:
    you do LOL



    [5:34 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Nope



    [5:34 PM]ts BANG:
    they require purchase info, registration location, ISP, etc



    [5:34 PM]ts BANG:
    none of that can just be guessed



    [5:36 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Well I have never set that stuff, and I forget what isp I did that with, that can be guessed mate. There is 2 main providers in Canada



    [5:36 PM]ts BANG:
    you dont set any of that



    [5:36 PM]ts BANG:
    all of that is logged upon user registration



    [5:36 PM]ts BANG:
    and since you have your money idk why you are bothering telling me these lies



    [5:37 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    And purchase info is only for purchases made tickets



    [5:37 PM]ts BANG:
    purchase info is used to validate ownership



    [5:37 PM]ts BANG:
    i literally have the form in front of me



    [5:37 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Show me it



    [5:38 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    My email has been # in the last 3 weeks so idk. No lies to be told



    [5:38 PM]ts BANG:
    [​IMG]


    [5:38 PM]ts BANG:
    doesnt matter im submitting a report lol



    [5:39 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Ok do so I have no relations



    [5:39 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    I will try to help with anything further



    [5:43 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Keep me updated. Also I do not like that you are falsely accussing me of such things.



    [5:44 PM]ts BANG:
    lol who else would be able to recover the wot account with user info?



    [5:44 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Playerup knows that the acc is yours and they can not help with anything after the deal



    [5:44 PM]ts BANG:
    some hacker with your password??



    [5:44 PM]ts BANG:
    why do you even care that I am making a dispute



    [5:44 PM]ts BANG:
    im just getting you banned



    [5:44 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Yes, like I said I have been #



    [5:44 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    In the last 3 weeks



    [5:44 PM]ts BANG:
    but how would the hacker get into the email if it was under my pw?



    [5:44 PM]ts BANG:
    obviously it was just recovered with support assistance



    [5:45 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    They can see past links



    [5:45 PM]ts BANG:
    past links mean nothing



    [5:45 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Yes



    [5:45 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    My main has everything they needed



    [5:45 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Its all documented there



    [5:46 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Isp, purchases etc



    [5:46 PM]ts BANG:
    right so a hacker specifically targetted you for your $50 world of tanks blitz account



    [5:46 PM]ts BANG:
    thats so believable



    [5:46 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    It is worth more than that



    [5:46 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Hackers dont care how much it is



    [5:47 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    As long as it has value they take it



    [5:47 PM]ts BANG:
    you dont know anything about hacking lol



    [5:47 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    You have no right to question my knowledge or anything.



    [5:48 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    I am trying to help but appearently you would rather want to push me away



    [5:48 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    You're accusing me of scamming with no proof



    [5:49 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    I will be filing a countersuit if needed



    [5:49 PM]ts BANG:
    lol man



    [5:49 PM]ts BANG:
    "no right to question knowledge"



    [5:50 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Actually it is an outside side source so playerup cant help, so it doesnt matter



    [5:50 PM]ts BANG:
    why are you even sending me messages anymore



    [5:50 PM]ts BANG:
    I made the dispute



    [5:50 PM]ts BANG:
    if you got paid



    [5:50 PM]ts BANG:
    why does it matter to you



    [5:51 PM]ts BANG:
    also about hacking



    [5:51 PM]ts BANG:
    Screenshot by Lightshot

    Lightshot
    Screenshot
    [​IMG]


    [5:51 PM]ts BANG:
    heres your net worth in 5 min



    [5:51 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Becuase I like helping people in these situations but it seems you dont need it



    [5:51 PM]ts BANG:
    what help can u possibly give lol



    [5:52 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    I can help get the acc back by contacting support



    [5:52 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    And giving all of my knowledge



    [5:52 PM]ts BANG:
    sure that works with me if you can recover the account for yourself I will rescind the claim



    [5:53 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Ok I will see what I can do



    [5:53 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    I will get back to you asap



    [5:53 PM]ts BANG:
    kk



    [6:22 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Sent



    [6:23 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    It will take 3-5 days or so they said



    [6:23 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    You can cancel youre



    [6:23 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Yours



    [6:24 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    I will keep you up to date


    " This is the whole chat we had, he also threatened me by saying he was going to # me.
     
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    This is shear nonsense because he said "right so a hacker specifically targetted you for your $50 world of tanks blitz account" then he said this to me " thats so believable"



    [5:46 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    It is worth more than that



    [5:46 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    Hackers dont care how much it is



    [5:47 PM]HyperBeastPlays:
    As long as it has value they take it"

    He is just trying to slander me more, when he doesn't even now it is me. This is unbelieveable, there has been no contact between me and him since I handed the account over and I haven't even though about that game or the account linked since that.
     
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    You're stating your main account was #, which had information leading to his account being stolen.

    Yet say he has no proof? You've given him and me the proof, and you are responsible for the accounts you sell and nobody else.

    This user is not slandering you as you have made a business agreement with money being exchanged and he has nothing to show for it... But you do, you have the money. You show no empathy towards the situation and instead attempt to make a mockery of it.

    @HyperBeastPlays - you need to either refund this user, or get him his account back. It seems you've put in the request to do so and that's good news.

    @ts3 refrain from attacking another person as what you're doing is not good either. I've issued you a warning for what was said in the chat logs.
     
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    Yes, sir I will try my best to get it back
     
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    Also just to clarify it was his account at the time and it wasn't under my possession, so how am I responsible for it after it was under his possessions. No one should be responsible for what happens after the deal, lets get real.
     
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    I shouldn't be responsible for what my buyer had done to them because I had no idea I still had the emails about the other account.
     
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    Show me the proof, sir and break it down. You probably only read through everything once and said "Oh its sufficent" with a very biased tone
     
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    Anyways Im going to try my best
     
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    I handed over all rights to him and everything and now you are making me responsible for something I have no power over. No matter what you say the account is under his power and rights and I gave him all of the info to it and of anything happens like this, I am not responsibe becuase no terms or rights are with me
     
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    By buy the account he agreed to sign over his rights and now he is responsible for whatever happens and how do you know there couldnt have been a data breach
     
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    I have the right to not say anything further
     
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    Also you are saying I am responsible for everything that occurred to the account including the hacking of my email. Thats pathetic.
     
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    Also Mod I do have empathy, I have had this happen to me before not on this site, but he attacked me so therefore all respect for him is lost. Remember I am responsible for my email and he is for the acc email and the acc. You cant refuse that
     
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    The story of a hacker gaining access to OGE and using your personal information is absurd. Why would a hacker try and recover some obscure game account? How would the hacker have your in game purchase info, ISP, location of registration, etc. Account recoveries require detailed information and this story is not believable.
     
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    You have already address that.
     
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