Stole Money Epic 7 account scammer

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    How to Report a Dispute
    Please fill out all 9 questions below. You must provide proof or your claim cannot be validated.

    1. Date Dispute Happened
    January 28. 2019

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    I'm the Buyer

    3. Total Transaction Value
    Example: $260 USD

    4. Other Parties Username
    depalmssv, frank

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    Example: PayPal

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    Example:
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]

    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
    [email protected]
    [email protected]

    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below

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    Jack Mon, Jan 28, 1:25 PM (13 days ago)
    Hi, I’m really interested in your epic 7 account. Is it still for sale? Thanks! Sent from my iPhone

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    Vito De palmas Mon, Jan 28, 1:27 PM (13 days ago)
    Yes, it's still available.

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    Mon, Jan 28, 2:43 PM (13 days ago)
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    Can I see some screen shots?

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 2:50 PM (13 days ago)
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    And do we trade via paypal?
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    Vito De palmas
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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 2:56 PM (13 days ago)
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    Yes, we can do it through PayPal
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:00 PM (13 days ago)
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    How much was it again?

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:02 PM (13 days ago)
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    My initial price is € 230
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:13 PM (13 days ago)
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    Ok I’ll take it. Whats your paypal email?

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:16 PM (13 days ago)
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    Friend, I am going to send you 2 PayPal addresses, so that you send 162.4 USD to each of them, ok? Since I promised half of the money to my younger brother
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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:18 PM (13 days ago)
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    Sorry, 132.5 USD each
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:18 PM (13 days ago)
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    Um... no. I’ll just send it to you. I don’t want to get involve with othere. And 230 euro is $260 USD. It’d be better if we use middleman service

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:20 PM (13 days ago)
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    Quiet, I am a 100% honest person, so I propose that we make a safe deal through the protection provided by PayPal to the buyer (goods and services). Okay?
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:25 PM (13 days ago)
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    Yup, that works, but I’m not send it to your brother.

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:28 PM (13 days ago)
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    What’s your paypal email?

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:29 PM (13 days ago)
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    [email protected]

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    Let me know when you send

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:30 PM (13 days ago)
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    Which one is yours? I am not sending it to 2 emails. I will only send $260 to one account.

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:34 PM (13 days ago)
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    I would really appreciate it if you sent 2 emails, this would save the PayPal fees.
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:36 PM (13 days ago)
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    Well I’m only dealing with you. Not your brother. Before we do the transaction, is your account linked?

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:39 PM (13 days ago)
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    my brother is here with me, he will only divide the payment. the account is not linked
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:40 PM (13 days ago)
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    Deal is off then. I’m only willing to send payment to 1 account. If your brother is there with you, pay him cash after you received your payment.

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:43 PM (13 days ago)
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    If the account is not linked, how do we do the transfer?

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:45 PM (13 days ago)
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    After receiving the money I will send you an attachment with the details of the account account (username and password). In addition to this, I will provide a 21-day guarantee for any type of return.
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:48 PM (13 days ago)
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    Sound’s very reasonable. Discuss it with your brother. I am only sending payment to one. Otherwise the trade is off.

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:52 PM (13 days ago)
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    okay, then send to this address: [email protected]
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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 3:57 PM (13 days ago)
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:01 PM (13 days ago)
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    $260 USD ok?

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:02 PM (13 days ago)
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    Yeah
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:06 PM (13 days ago)
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    Sent

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:10 PM (13 days ago)
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    Friend I received the money ON HOLD, I need you to click on the blue button that says CONFIRM so you can release the funds.
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:11 PM (13 days ago)
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    No account, no release.

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:11 PM (13 days ago)
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    And I don’t see any blue button.

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:12 PM (13 days ago)
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    I think it holds the fund automatically

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    Vito De palmas
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    You have to do it from the browser and not from the app. I have everything ready to deliver, I'm just waiting for you
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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:15 PM (13 days ago)
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    it retains them, but you can release them by clicking on the blue button that says CONFIRM
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:20 PM (13 days ago)
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    Well I am not doing anything further until I receive the account.

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:21 PM (13 days ago)
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    I didn’t receive anything yet, therefore I will not confirm receipt. If I dont see the account Within the hour I will dispute the transaction.

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:25 PM (13 days ago)
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    Sir I can not deliver with the withheld money, because I would lose my protection. PayPal provides protection for 180 days even after confirming, since we are trading an intangible product. I have everything ready to deliver, I'm just waiting for you
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:26 PM (13 days ago)
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    Well, pretty sure you are a scammer now. I’ll call to dispute the transaction.

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    Vito De palmas
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:33 PM (13 days ago)
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    Hey what's wrong? Why do you judge me without knowing me? You will not need to open a dispute, I will issue a refund now. I think you're the one who tries to cheat me
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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:36 PM (13 days ago)
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    Do you not know how paypal works? I’m not the one holding the funds. Paypal is. Once I sent out the money, it’s out of my hands. I went into the browser and I don’t see that option.

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 4:40 PM (13 days ago)
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    You kept saying you are waiting for me. I SENT my money to you already. I am waiting for you to give me the account. You kept asking me to click confirmation of receipt, but where is the account!? Once I click that thing then I will lose my protection. I don’t even know if you actually have the account now.

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 5:15 PM (13 days ago)
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    Aren’t you refunding? Where is the refund?

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    Jack
    Mon, Jan 28, 7:22 PM (13 days ago)
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    I will report you to Paypal for scamming.
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    How can you protect yourself from these type of scams in the future?
    I strongly recommend in the future to use PlayerUp Middleman Services to protect yourself from these type of scams. Here is how it works for buyers (Buyers Guide) and here is how it works for sellers (Sellers Guide).

    Is there anything we can do to assist you still with this dispute?
    Please read this guide (Guide - Combat Fraud Service). All we need is the scammers full name and address and we can assist you further.

    What can you do next to resolve this issue?
    Since this is a PayPal transaction, you need to immediately go to PayPal and open a dispute hopefully before the seller moves those funds. In order to do that, go to your paypal receipt, and see the area where it says resolution or dispute payment. Open a dispute and provide them as much proof as possible. Contact PayPal as well and ask them what you need to do to win a dispute. Keep in constant communication with paypal. If you sent the payment by family and friends then unfortunately those funds are lost as you cannot dispute those payments and we strongly advise against sending friends and family payments in the future even if the seller requires it you can easily say no. For more information, please contact PayPal.

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