Stole Money There is no payment

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    I am Japanese.
    I am not good at English, so I will excuse myself in writing.

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    Rudir Snark
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    I was in touch.

    I sold my mobile mobile account for $ 19,000.

    Last Friday, I planned to be deposited in my bank account.
    Next time I was informed that I will pay Monday.

    And today is Wednesday.
    Payment has not yet been made.

    Is this a cheat?

    I have taught a google account, a facebook account.
    I do not have contacts.

    From now on, how should I proceed about this problem?



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    Hello.
    Today.



    On Monday, May 21, 2018, daisuke ohtani <[email protected]> wrote:
    Today is Monday.
    Money has not been deposited in my bankbook.
    When will it be deposited?
    Contact Please!

    2018-05-16 22:11 GMT+09:00 Rudir Snark <[email protected]>:
    Friday


    On Wednesday, May 16, 2018, daisuke ohtani <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hello.When will I get the money?


    2018-05-13 20:04 GMT+09:00 Rudir Snark <[email protected]>:
    Yes.


    On Sunday, May 13, 2018, daisuke ohtani <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is this deal the end?
    Is it only to wait for my payment?

    2018-05-12 22:01 GMT+09:00 Rudir Snark <[email protected]>:
    For the account


    On Saturday, May 12, 2018, daisuke ohtani <[email protected]> wrote:

    There are various kinds of information.
    It is not necessary for the game.
    Why do you own?

    2018-05-12 21:42 GMT+09:00 Rudir Snark <[email protected]>:
    We need it.


    On Saturday, May 12, 2018, daisuke ohtani <[email protected]> wrote:
    Is this the end of the transaction?
    Have not you returned my google account?

    2018-05-12 21:23 GMT+09:00 Rudir Snark <[email protected]>:
    It’s dome. Payment will be in your bank in 3 to 5 days.

    On Saturday, May 12, 2018, daisuke ohtani <[email protected]> wrote:
    How long will the transaction proceed after this?


    2018-05-12 20:53 GMT+09:00 Rudir Snark <[email protected]>:
    Code sent to you by SMS


    On Saturday, May 12, 2018, daisuke ohtani <[email protected]> wrote:
    What should I send?

    2018-05-12 20:40 GMT+09:00 Rudir Snark <[email protected]>:
    We are removing all personal accounts from this email,
    Please provide the code sent to phone ending in 9780


    On Saturday, May 12, 2018, daisuke ohtani <[email protected]> wrote:
    OK

    2018-05-12 20:23 GMT+09:00 Rudir Snark <[email protected]>:
    Hello,
    Please reply if you received this email.
     
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    Provide more information.
     
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    Paid with:AMEX x-7905 Paypal
    Transaction ID:1YL38756WX759610F
    Invoice ID:WC-34209


    I contacted playerup's facebook. It taught me that this is a fraud. And please visit here, it is told that there is a possibility that someone will help. What other information do I need?
     
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    I didn't know playerup had a facebook... well I do now. Also, the price is it "Nineteen THOUSAND" or "One Hundred Ninety" cause Nineteen Thousand is so much for an account... but hey, if U sold it for $19,000 thats a lot of money and people would easily love to scam for something worth that much.
     
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    I understood that this is a fraud. Does Middleman and the other party's information I submitted do not solve this problem?
     
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    MM can't do anything about this as it wasn't done through PlayerUp Middleman Services. You need to contact the game publishers and recall the account. Be careful in the future people offering ridiculously high prices they were obviously offering you a "too good to be true" offer to bait you into believing anything they say.

    It's a classic bait to scam.
     
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    How can you protect yourself from these type of scams in the future?
    I strongly recommend in the future to use PlayerUp Middleman Services to protect yourself from these type of scams. Here is how it works for buyers (Buyers Guide) and here is how it works for sellers (Sellers Guide).

    Is there anything we can do to assist you still with this dispute?
    Please read this guide (Guide - Combat Fraud Service). All we need is the scammers full name and address and we can assist you further.

    What can you do next to resolve this issue?
    Since this is a PayPal transaction, you need to immediately go to PayPal and open a dispute hopefully before the seller moves those funds. In order to do that, go to your paypal receipt, and see the area where it says resolution or dispute payment. Open a dispute and provide them as much proof as possible. Contact PayPal as well and ask them what you need to do to win a dispute. Keep in constant communication with paypal. If you sent the payment by family and friends then unfortunately those funds are lost as you cannot dispute those payments and we strongly advise against sending friends and family payments in the future even if the seller requires it you can easily say no. For more information, please contact PayPal.

    Can PlayerUp provide compensation for this dispute?
    Since this is a non middleman transaction and PlayerUp wasn't directly involved with safeguarding your payment and guaranteeing your transaction we will unfortunately not be able to provide any compensation for you on this transaction as you dealt directly with the individual for which you're submitting a complaint against in this ticket. However if you're able to locate his full name and address, we can possibly go after him but there is no guarantee we'll be able to recover any lost funds - Guide - Combat Fraud Service

    How can I protect myself in the future?
    We strongly advise that you don't conduct business offsite. This is the #1 way scammers attract buyers and sellers is they lure them offsite and then bait them into anything because they have no consequences for their actions. If you did business on site, then disregard this message as the majority of scams are done offsite.














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    Thank you very much for your kindness.
     
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    I will contact the game company and paypal.
     
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