1. Date Dispute Happened April 12th, 2018. 2. Are You The Buyer or Seller Seller 3. Total Transaction Value $0, she never paid, so I never did either. 4. Other Parties Username Playerup Username: Kokoseal Discord Username: KokoSeal#9652 5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment Paypal, although I never received it. 6. Other Parties Email Addresses [email protected] (I found this email on a thread she posted advertising that she was buying AJ items, although it seems a little generic, so it might not be her real email.) 7. Other Parties Payment Email Address I'm assuming this is the same email, although I am not sure at all, considering she never paid. 8. Other Parties Messenger Username Discord Username: KokoSeal#9652 9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below Basically, she contacted me on discord asking for a trade, no big deal. We agreed on a price, and got ready to trade. When she "paid with paypal" nothing went through, then she confessed that she never paid. She then asked for free items, and when I denied, she threatened to call me a scammer on the site, claiming "everyone believes the victim" and that she would "photoshop the screenshots." I still said that I would not give her free items, and she is now calling me a scammer on this site. I have uploaded a youtube video showcasing our conversation. In the video, I highlight her discord username, my discord username, and the discord web address to prove the conversation is one between us and on discord. I also included it in video form so that it is clear that nothing has been tampered with. Apparently, she uploaded something similar, (I think, unless she posted mine on the dispute page) AFTER I posted mine. I believe this gave her time to somehow find a way to get a friend to have the conversation with her, or alter the video in some way. HERE IS A LINK TO THE THREAD IN WHICH I POSTED MY PROOF, WHERE SHE ONLY BOASTED OF HAVING SOME (If she had some unaltered proof, why not post it then?): Selling - Super Rare Account - 2 Headdresses, Black Longs, Nm Den Betas, Etc | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform. HERE IS MY VIDEO: HERE ARE MY PAYPAL STATEMENTS PROVING I NEVER RECIEVED ANYTHING: Screenshot 154 — imgbb.com Screenshot 155 — imgbb.com This user is harassing me, made threats, and attempting to ruin my business. I hope action can be taken. Thank you.
Screenshot 155 — imgbb.com Screenshot 154 — imgbb.com Can you upload a Screenshot of your Paypal, this time with both receiver and senders email, otherwise we cant verify what Paypal this is your showing us. It's interesting seeing both of your videos. I looked through both of them for editing stuff, maybe someone with more experience will be able to make a technical call on which one is fake because ... obviously one has been tampered with. Edit: Your sellers Paypal has one received payment?
If by receiver and sender emails, do you mean from the transaction I have? If not, I'm not sure how to show you my transactions with my email in the overview, but here's the transaction I have, detailing my email and the email of the buyer. Here's the screenshot: Screenshot 164 — imgbb.com As you can see, my paypal email lines up with the one I sent her in my video. Correct, I have only received one payment from a buyer. It was $10 (minus the sellers fee) for an item. (The screenshot above was this transaction)
I honestly can't comprehend how anyone can lie so much, and just be 'ok' with it. We agreed on the deal for me to purchase the Beta White Tail and Founder's Hat for $35USD, plus the charges that followed that transaction. It was my own fault for trusting you, like how I trust the other sellers I purchase from. I shouldn't have used the Friends and Family method. I have no idea how they altered the Discord chat, and I'm still asking a few friends how that's possible. Even Google isn't giving me any answers.
@KokoSeal Please stop harassing me by commenting on my threads. I opened this thread as a ticket against you. I didn't comment on yours against me. Please respect my space. As for "editing the discord chat" I showed every bit of information to prove I have not edited it. I don't think you can even edit discord, unless you found a way to, seeing as I posted my proof first, and you posted your lie quite a bit later. Again, please leave this for the mods to handle, and do not continue to bother me further. Thank you.
@KokoSeal @Chrysalism If he edited the discord words, it would said (edited) next to the message, and you cant edit that out of a video. I think youre busted Koko
I'm honestly tired about this whole situation. I paid for 2 items, a Founder's Hat and White Beta Tail, and never received them from this user. As I said, I have no idea how they altered the Discord chat, to make me sound like some kind of brat. If you visit my dispute about this user, I provided a statement from PayPal proving that I did send the payment to them. Along with the real Discord chat. I've bought from multiple people on this website, and I've only had problems with 2, including this user. Insead of arguing, I just want the staff to handle this.
You said "Insead of arguing, I just want the staff to handle this." You have an open dispute against you, you need to argue or you will be viewed as not responding to the case, and will be removed from this website.
@KokoSeal I just watched that video, and you are pathetic. Honestly faking payments for items, then using the excuse "Oh I don't have enough money, please just give them to me " its pathetic. Saying you will fake feedback against him? Saying you will fake screenshots? You must be living a low life. If you don't have money to buy the items, how bout you get a job, make some money, then come back and buy through Middleman Its embarrassing to see someone like you, on a site like this, trying to ruin peoples reputations. I hope you get removed.
Thank you. Also, this is unrelated, but the shiba inu in your profile picture is absolutely adorable.
It baffles me how you just jumped to conclusions like that. This user user scammed me out of $35USD, after I paid them, and never received the items they promised. The dispute I made about them can be found here: Never Delivered - Stole Money - Scammer: Chrysalism | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform. . I'd really appreciate it if this situation can be brought to an end. This user is a compulsive lier, and I wouldn't want anyone else be scammed by them.
I understand but the chat logs provided here show so much more said. The ones you provided, seems like you got rid and edited messages. I understand in his video, he said his email was shadow something, and you said ok, and you said u sent money to that email. You also said you didnt have enough money to buy them, but for some reason on your dispute, you show a picture of money being sent to a kitty something email. That could easily have been sent from someone elses email, to a fake email. Sorry, but im on this guys side :/
I never said that I "Didn't have enough money to buy them." This user altered the chat, to make me sound that way. When in reality, those are things I would never say - I'm just not like that. I cab provide my whole PayPal statement if necessary, if you believe it's from another person's PayPal. As far as I know, you can only edit your own messages on Discord. This user somehow edited their own speech, and the things that I said. They also gave a blank PayPal statement, to make others believe I never sent them the payment. I can't say how much of a compulsive lier they are. It's up to you who to believe, but my money was stolen from me.It could've been prevented if I didn't use the Friends and Family method over PayPal.
Only thing im gonna agree with you on, is that you shouldn't have used friends and family. Now I kinda see where this whole thing is going. I don't feel bad that you lost your money because you did the transaction through F&F. Before I found playerup, all i did was pay through F&F and got scammed hundreds of dollars, but now that im here, Im ID verified, I have 100% positive feedback, and 18 ppl like me
The other user that scammed me I also used the same method. I made the same mistake twice, and now I've learned from that mistake. I just can't comprehend how someone can lie and deceive people so much, to try and cover-up what they did. I just don't want this user to scam anyone else.
@KokoSeal I provided a picture of my statement as well, showing my email and the email of the user who sent me the only amount of money in my paypal. I also posted my video before you did. Without hesitation, the day that you accused me of scamming you. Why is it it took you so long to attempt to rebut that? The fact that you have proof that you sent money to someone isn't really any proof at all. All it proves is that you sent money to someone on the day you tried to scam me, which you likely did to try to scramble together "evidence" against me.
Once I get on my computer, I will post my entire PayPal statement in the dispute thread I created. It clearly says how the payment was sent to the e-mail you provided me. After I sent the payment to you, you claimed that you never received it, and that your character logged out of the game shortly afterwards. You said in the Discord Chat how "The game just logged you out." I requested you to come back to the game - which you did, but also said that you were "In a raid in WoW." I don't know how you managed to alter the Discord Chat, but this has been going on for awhile. Hopefully it gets resolved when the staff get the chance.
