Stole Money Scammer: Techtorn Techtorn#4938 Via Discord

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    3. Total Transaction Value
    Example: $20 USD (142.24 HKD) --------> Proof of payment Screenshot by Lightshot

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    Techtorn ( Here is a picture of all his social medias Screenshot by Lightshot )
    Profile Page: https://www.playerup.com/members/techtorn.202238/
    He is an ID verified member aswell. Sad to see he scammed.
    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    I payed via paypal friends and family because it took about 50 days for middleman to start the 3 way convo, and I thought I could trust him because he is ID verified. I'm not mad I lost money because I work a 9-5 job with a $22 per hour job, so $20 is nothing, I just want him banned so he cant scam any other people.

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    Screenshot by Lightshot Proof he sent me account details. The are unblurred because who cares about them.
    Screenshot by Lightshot Auth Serial Code and Restore Code for the blizzard account. Have it unblurred :)
    Screenshot by Lightshot Email I just saw at 9:30pm, saying I received it 12 hours ago while I was at school. I discovered this email after trying to log into the account, and it said that my username and password had "timed out" and were "incorrect".
    Screenshot by Lightshot He told me I had to send F&F so he doesn't have to pay a fee...
    Screenshot by Lightshot He is not responding to any of my messages. Hopefully when the staff notifies him he has a dispute pending against him, he will respond here, and if he doesn't, that's 1 more scammer off this site! Please check if he has multiple accounts and if any are suspended or banned.
     
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  2. Rolan

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    @TechTorn address this dispute against you.
     
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    @DoggoHecks looks like you are not having any luck with your purchases.
     
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    Honestly... I just dont trust middleman because it took from Feb 6th to around March 25th for 3 way convo to start, after having pre ID convo started on Feb 6th. Honestly, I don't care I lose money because I work for government security, and make $22+ an hour, and I honestly like that I get scammed, because then RIP that person. I already have 7 of my OWN overwatch accounts, why would I want anymore?
     
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    But on the bright side, I was able to purchase the Galaxy S8+, fully purchased today :D
     
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    NEW EVIDENCE: Screenshot by Lightshot I was able to get into the account really quick before he changed email again, and as you can see, he set up blizzard SMS protect. As you can tell, I am from the US, and therefor I can't even set up blizzard SMS protect, because the way blizzard runs it, is that it must be an area code from your country, and as you can tell, I am not from Hong Kong like "Toshiki Ho" over here, I am from Midwest US.

    MORE NEW EVIDENCE: Screenshot by Lightshot After I was able to log into the account quickly, I check the email and security questions, and sure enough they match up. After he saw I was able to log into the account again, he changed the email to something slightly different. Screenshot by Lightshot It is now an email account starting with an A. Therefor I can't log into it because I don't know the email.

    MORE NEW EVIDENCE: Screenshot by Lightshot He FINALLY has started responding after I told him to go respond to this dispute, and he said I never even bought anything that he had advertised on playerup. I clearly have the screenshots of me sending the payment TO HIS PAYPAL, and proof of him sending me the account details! And I clearly have proof I was able to log into the account, because it shows his name, his country, he has SMS and auth now set up, and it clearly shows his email. If this is not enough to get him taken off this site, I don't know what is.

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    1. the only reason I didn't respond to you was that I don't check my discord in the morning.

    2. When I said you never bought anything from me, I meant that you never bought it through the middleman service which is my preferred way of selling/buying accounts.

    3. The only reason We used the F&F option on PayPal was that you were unwilling to use the middleman service which I suggested multiple times during our chat in discord, And I even suggested that you use the Pay for goods or services option on there because in case anything happens we can settle it through Paypal, But you didn't want to pay the fee which is not my problem.

    4. I already had the SMS protection Set up on my battle.net account before you bought it after you bought it I have not been able to login to the account your screenshots to show my email but that was when I first sold you the account you just took screenshots of my account when I first sold it to you and then now you're accusing me of scamming you when I never even touched the account after I sold it to you.
     
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    Ok if you never scammed me, I clearly see you are ID verified on here, which means you can contact blizzard, use your ID to prove the account is yours, change the details to temp ones, and send them to me. You already got your money, I can't refund it via Friends And Family, and you clearly have access to the account somehow because you clearly can change the emails, which means you have access to those emails, and the password, and SMS and Auth, and Sec Question, which means it should be no problems for you to retrieve the "#" account from the person who stole it, and give it back to me. That doesn't seem so hard now does it?
     
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    And you saying I didn't want to pay the fee? Total BS. You said you didn't want to pay the fee because "It takes like... $1 off, which is not true. It takes 0.30 away from cost, and 2% of the total amount sent which would only be 0.70, which should be no problem because you clearly are over 18, and you clearly MUST have a job, unless scamming is your job, which would be sad... I never told you I didn't want to cover the fee, I said I can't because I only transferred $20 to my paypal account, and transferring funds does not take 5 seconds. Screenshot by Lightshot You clearly stated you wanted it F&F because "You don't want to pay a fee".
     
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    Yes, I can get the account back with the help from blizzard. But how do I know that you didn't sell the account somewhere else and now you're trying to get me to take the account back just so you can resell it? And also what you did and didn't do with your account is none of my concern if you got the account # or stolen. While I could help you get the account back I'm not obligated to do so. And falsely accusing me of scamming you when you just lost the account is wrong.
     
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    Again I didn't want to transfer the money through F&F, And how much money you transferred to your paypal is not my concern. so please stop using that as a reasoning.
     
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    Screenshot by Lightshot There s a copy of all my transactions from my paypal. You can see I have my account linked to it because you can see I transferred the $20 to it for the account. You can see I sent it to you, you can see that above that it says completed, and no other transactions above that, and as you can see the date at the bottom right, I live with CST in the Midwest USA, which that is the time right now. Screenshot by Lightshot As you can see, yesterday the email requested to change, and as you can tell from the screenshot here: Screenshot by Lightshot It was under your email. So did I resell it to you? I was able to get into the account because you changed it back to the same email, and I have auth logged into my phone, so I could use code from that to reset the password. As you can tell, you changed the account to a different email starting with an "A" this morning, because you knew that in order to stop me from being able to log in to the account, you would need to change the email address to one you haven't told me. I have never been a seller on playerup, and I have not released ways to communicate me unless I am posting under a sellers thread. Until you get the account back from blizzard or "yourself" my thread here will stand strong and I will fight against you with everything I have until you are removed from this website, and everyone will know who you are, Mr. Toshiki Ho
     
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    Firstly you did send me the money that is fact. And secondly I did not change the email after you bought it or did I change it to something starting with A, if I did wanted to scam you I would never have given you the authenticator reset code nor my security question it would bemuse easier to just block you from discord after you sent me the money, why would I go through all of this just so I can get my account back from you when I was the one that gave it to you? Please give me an explanation on this.
     
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    Even if you blocked me, we would still be right here, in this same thing. And like you said
    "Why would I go through all of this just so I can get my account back from you when I was the one that gave it to you?"
    I dont know why? Why dont you tell everyone here.
    Also, same with me. I had the account in my hands, I played on it and I liked it. I buy from here all the time and report players like you and get them removed. Why would I work so hard, after sending you the money. Keep in mind this money can't be refunded through a chargeback, and so I sent you the money, you gave me account, you took account back, I'm reporting, you're refusing to help me get it back, but why would I scam? That would literally me changing the email after I bought it, changing it again, saying you scammed it, and then me getting it back anyway. What is the point of that? Either way I sent you the money and if you helped me it would be back in my hands. Think man, you're done here.
     
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    Again I do not know what you do with your accounts and I don't care but why would I have been the one to suggest that we use a middleman in the first place if it was my intention to scam you? I would have taken the money and ran, And as for why I'm not going to contact blizzard about the account is because you could just be using me to scam someone else after you sold the account to them.
     
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    I have the sec question, I have original email and pass, I could take it back myself if I wanted to, but no. Im going to get you removed for being a terrible person who scams people for money. I know your name, I know your location, and I know 5 digits of your phone number. This is not going to be fun for you. Until then, I am waiting for a mod to reply and I will no longer being talking with you because all you do is run around in circles and avoid the reality. Respond all you want, I only respond to trust mods now, not Verified Chinese Scammers :) @Rolan @Hulk
     
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    I'm going to bed now, so if I don't reply for 8 hours that is why, when I wake up I hope this is resolved.
     
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    When you wake up, you will be banned dw
     
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    Your mistake is not using middleman based off one slow bad experience which I am aware of the technical reason behind it and what's worse waiting or being scammed? You pay $0 to be 100% scam proof why not use that?

    You should use middleman on your transactions to avoid this. 90%-95% of orders are started up within the 1st 24 hours and I'm sure you won't be waiting again like you did the 1st time.
     
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    Middleman or not, im not the one who scammed someone of an account. I understand middleman would be the safer option, I understand I lost my money, WHO CARES though. I don't care I lost my money, I wan't this scammer off the site. He even is verified. Now you know he is a "Verified Chinese Scammer"
     
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