Stole Money @neosiq Bailed Out On A Deal

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    Brian (@Neosiq) had made a deal with me about two months ago saying that he will pay me $3000 for a ROTMG account with 8 Helm of Juggernauts. I believed him because he had other offers on Playerup in the thousands too (Growtopia and Realm of the Mad God).

    What you must understand that getting one jugg (Helm of the Juggernaut) is so rare that many people who play for 2 years get none if not for one. On top of that, you cannot trade this item so it is limited to one account. And he agreed that I farm for 8 of this rare item.

    So upon agreement, I wasted hundreds of hours in a span of one month (200-300 I think?) and did it. Essentially this was the only thing I did this for the whole month because I needed the money for Chinese New Year to gift presents (Feb 14th). He guaranteed he would get me money by then but he slipped the deadline and I should wait longer. But recently he bailed out with a lie saying that there is a site selling it and when I asked him for it he didn't reply back.

    Honestly there was no money in this transaction but I've been scammed hundreds of hours and now have nothing on me. I even dropped the price to $2250 and he didn't say anything.

    Pictures of the recent messages that he bailed...
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    1. Date Dispute Happened
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    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    Example: I'm the Seller

    3. Total Transaction Value
    Example: $3000 USD

    4. Other Parties Username
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    Neosiq

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    Example: Btc

    8. Other Parties Skye Username
    Example: neosiq

    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below
    And Skype logs to show that we were committed on this. I asked him over 10 times if he was sure about this deal and he said yes.

    Where the deal started

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    Confirmation#1
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    Initial problem and wanted me to wait
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    More explanation on it
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    Its already past Feb 6th but
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    That was the last reply he gave me until those messages on Playerup where he just bailed and scammed me of my time (my life for a month)
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    I did not bail out. I do not have the money right now, and also I do not want to do the deal because you acted very childish and tried to rush me. I have financial problems, and you are currently trying to take money from me simply because I suggested that we could possibly make a deal. If anything, you should be the one banned.
     
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    And yes the site does sell you 8 juggs. They give you another account with password + email. I am satisfied with my purchase and I do not intend on spending $2100 more than what they asked for. You are the scammer here. You tried to sell me 8 Juggs for $2200, while that site gave it to me for $100. I do thank you for your time. However, it is unreasonable for you to be angry at me, because you accepted my buy. I did not say I would indeed buy, because I knew that $2200 was too expensive. Also you have no proof that you even have 8 Juggs. For all I know, you might give me an empty account with nothing on it.
     
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    Also one more thing. Bailing out on a deal is not an offense (and I have not bailed out, I found somebody who offered me the correct price. You tried to scam me $2100).
     
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    Also I did not bail out, because it never entered the middleman phase. We were only casually talking.
     
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    @Neosiq I never meant to get on the wrong side of you but you slipped deadlines and I understood you had problems. But I wanted it by Chinese New Year and I did not get it causing issues in my personal life that you and the mods don't and shouldn't care about. I made sure countless of times you were committed to it, and now you just bailed.

    Let me give you an example. It is like I'm an a pottery maker and you ask for a gold pot, it costs a lot of money and you were willing to pay for it. Then after I finish making it you decide to not buy it and lie. Now I don't have anyone who wants to buy an expesnive pot while I lost a ton of money and time making it, so whose is liable for it?

    It was a childish example, but moving on, next thing I want to confirm is your so-called site that you bought from. Please provide proof that they actually sell juggs, I have spent way more time in the ROTMG RWT system to know about it and I have never found it.

    Also you said that I wanted to scam you $2100, and this is assuming you bought it from the site that you should be giving us the link to soon. And did you just say that you never said that you would indeed not buy? Mods please read the Skype logs and check if there is any contradictions :)

    @Neosiq It is reasonable for me to be mad but I'm not and am trying to close this professionally. If anything I'm the one crying on Skype while you are ignoring me. I never EVER rushed you until it was getting dangerously close to Chinese New Year (8 days after the supposed deadline you set). And after you passed that deadline I waited and yet I never got ANYTHING.

    And now you have bailed out on me with a white lie (for now at least until you provide link). I'm not going to curse at you or anything like most people who get scammed, but I know you are not a scammer at heart and know who truly did unjustice in this case. I had fun talking to you many times and we fully agreed upon our deal and everytime you talked it was an explanation of your Paypal situation and you couldn't pay yet (which means that you did agree upon deal).

    Plus you said that it was too expensive for you... did you ever consider the rarity of 1 jugg? Yes you did, in fact let me pull up a Skype log of me questioning you asking if you even had enough money and you replied saying if I could even get 8 juggs. So if anything you were in on the deal.

    Now I am facing this dilemma where I cannot get my money for this account that you were supposed to buy for $3000. When I saw that you recently put up offers in Playerup for buying Growtopia Diamond locks for $850, how should I feel when I never got my payment?

    Regardless, the Skype logs and your Playerup messages show everything to the mods and @Neosiq I want to see the site you bought it from. My IRL relationships have been love you up and I agree that it would never affect you guys but now I'm desperate more than angry and want some form of recompensation. I in fact DO have the account and we can do a transaction using the middleman service if you want to along with email ownership or if you feel insecure about it an email change. As stated before please bro I know you are not a scammer at heart and you tell me whose fault it truly is
     
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    Bailing out first off is not bannable, second off I have an 8 jugg account sold for $2100 cheaper than yours, so I really don't want to deal with you.
     
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    Could you send a pic man... I would like to talk about this over Skype
     
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    I have no need to expose my sources, and I don't want to waste my time on you.
     
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    @Iridescence you still have the account right?with you?

    If yes, then you both should solve this within yourselves.Also if you are boosting your account for someone you should have taken some payment in advance so that later you buyer can't back out.

    Also @Neosiq you should atleast inform him that you were no longer interested in that deal.
     
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    Yea he has the account and no i dont want his account because i bought the same thing for way cheaper.
     
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    Also its not boosting because he did it on his own account.
     
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    @samsaha86 Yes I do... and this is not a boost. This is basically an account with the items he wanted.

    I verified with him so many times and he said yes.

    And now he is saying he already bought it for a cheap price and he is scared to show where he bought it from, which is leading to the fact that he never bought it in the first place. I do not know what to do anymore at least maybe a Warning sign on his account will do but simply backign out on a big deal AFTER a deadline is simply wrong.

    It was partly my fault for not collecting payment beforehand, but I trusted him. And clearly this is a breach on trust and should be reflected on his account eg. ban or a High risk sign. Honestly the best way to resolve this is for him to give the discussed # price for the account he wanted for two months before bailing this month.
     
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    Yea no you should be the one with high risk/ban for trying to overprice something.
     
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    @Neosiq Overprice? Please tell me bro, where did you buy these juggs? I refuse to stand down until you give me proof that you bought the juggs from this site you are adamant not to reveal.

    I was not overpricing anything and you personally know the value of these juggs, don't salestrash them just to get away with it. I doubt you would've agreed upon this deal for 2 MONTHS without doing a tad amount of research, especially a trade for such a high price.

    Note to mods: juggs is the item "Helm of the Juggernaut" I was talking about
     
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    I'm sorry I am never going to answer to you again. I won't get a ban/risk because I have done nothing at all. You still have your account, and its not boosting because you did it on your own account. Goodbye.
     
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    @Neosiq I now own an account that no one will buy at its true RWT price beacuse of how expensive it is and essentially have wasted my time grinding hundreds of hours for 8 juggs. So I lose stuff because of your fault and you get away? Nah... lets leave it to the mods
     
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    I agree we should get some mods in here to get you banned.
     
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    Also a friend of mine told me that you are certainly lying. You took the screenshot of your juggs on a private server. The only way to confirm your not scamming is to actually meet you ingame, which I know you won't be willing to because you actually don't have the 8 juggs.
     
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    Alright man you want to meet ingame? Tell me what time and I will come... Mods if you want to you can join.. make an account, and verify that I own the account
     
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