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    Admin should ban him already he is a cancer to this community , if they give him more time and more chances he will simply avoid previous mistakes and scam more innocent people.

    At least when he tries to scam people at future he won't have his badges supporting him , From my own point of view if those decorations will be misused then they should be earned not bought with cash.
     
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    I am referring you to Posts in this Thread, as I have clarified points before but you keep repeating them.
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    In Post #67, I stated the following :
    "I remember this conversation, I was contacted for assistance regarding Middleman Service. I was explaining to them about the new Middleman System that Admin told me about, Middleman 3.0, where Admin told me that the process will be more automated and therefore faster.

    You've cropped out the message to show what suits you."
    Show us the same chat, but scroll up a bit so that we can see the entire message bubble. It will show us that I (Flagged Username) was explaining about a future PlayerUp Middleman System that Admin was looking at implementing, which would be Middleman 3.0.
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    I have explained enough about this, if you don't understand then that is your problem. I keep repeating the same points.
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    I would not of asked him from the email in the beginning, because I knew that it was spoofed. He obviously did not own the email, nor did he have any intention in using the official Epic.NPC Middleman , therefore I knew it was spoofed from the beginning and that is why I only threatened for the Kikw Profile and not the email.
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    I am assuming that you're referring to the email he provided that you need to reply to. The reason I did not bother with this, was because I do not use Email, which is stated in my Contact Info that I only use Kik. Therefore, I only needed to threaten for the Kik Profile because only the Kik Profile was similar to my Original Kik Profile.
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    No debate against this. Admin will be able to see all of the messages and times they were sent. I misinterpreted what you said initially.
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    I am referring you to Posts in this Thread, as I have clarified points before but you keep repeating them.
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    In Post #67, I stated the following :
    "I remember this conversation, I was contacted for assistance regarding Middleman Service. I was explaining to them about the new Middleman System that Admin told me about, Middleman 3.0, where Admin told me that the process will be more automated and therefore faster.

    You've cropped out the message to show what suits you."
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    I have explained enough about this, if you don't understand then that is your problem. I keep repeating the same points.
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    I would not of asked him from the email in the beginning, because I knew that it was spoofed. He obviously did not own the email, nor did he have any intention in using the official Epic.NPC Middleman , therefore I knew it was spoofed from the beginning and that is why I only threatened for the Kikw Profile and not the email.
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    I am assuming that you're referring to the email he provided that you need to reply to. The reason I did not bother with this, was because I do not use Email, which is stated in my Contact Info that I only use Kik. Therefore, I only needed to threaten for the Kik Profile because only the Kik Profile was similar to my Original Kik Profile.
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    No debate against this. Admin will be able to see all of the messages and times they were sent. I misinterpreted what you said initially.
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    I am referring you to Posts in this Thread, as I have clarified points before but you keep repeating them.
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    In Post #67, I stated the following :
    "I remember this conversation, I was contacted for assistance regarding Middleman Service. I was explaining to them about the new Middleman System that Admin told me about, Middleman 3.0, where Admin told me that the process will be more automated and therefore faster.

    You've cropped out the message to show what suits you."
    Show us the same chat, but scroll up a bit so that we can see the entire message bubble. It will show us that I (Flagged Username) was explaining about a future PlayerUp Middleman System that Admin was looking at implementing, which would be Middleman 3.0.
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    I have explained enough about this, if you don't understand then that is your problem. I keep repeating the same points.
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    I would not of asked him from the email in the beginning, because I knew that it was spoofed. He obviously did not own the email, nor did he have any intention in using the official Epic.NPC Middleman , therefore I knew it was spoofed from the beginning and that is why I only threatened for the Kikw Profile and not the email.
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    I am assuming that you're referring to the email he provided that you need to reply to. The reason I did not bother with this, was because I do not use Email, which is stated in my Contact Info that I only use Kik. Therefore, I only needed to threaten for the Kik Profile because only the Kik Profile was similar to my Original Kik Profile.
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    No debate against this. Admin will be able to see all of the messages and times they were sent. I misinterpreted what you said initially.
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    @Admin , @Rolan , @samsaha86
    Could you please review this?
     
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    @Admin forgive me for this but i completely agree with under7days.
    Some of the badges are completely misleading.

    For ex the *VERIFIED* badge is provided after id verification in most of the cases.

    But badges like TRUSTED/LEADER/SECURE/IMLEGIT can mislead new member's.I personally know a member who scammed someone and bought those badges.


    My suggestion would be,the badges should remain paid products but member's who are going to buy them atleast deserve them.

    lika @Rolan has a Devoted badge which can be justified as he is a active member and helping the site since years.

    I have a trusted badge because am here since 2015 and a gold seller/Moderator so i can be trusted.

    but when a new member who has no reputation buys them it actually mislead other people as they dont know the reality.
     
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    blah blah blah

    Repeating ? Among all posts as total you just answered 20 percent of questions

    1 - discussing the dispute
    2 - threat the scammer

    and i hope you didn't answer.

    80 percent changing topics and linking me to the dead zone to distract the public.

    obviously these screenshots are sent to me by a member you already know so it will be easier for you to get the full chat instead of accusing me that i cropped them right?!

    i can notice that you reply fast today , why didn't you reply that fast when we asked you for screenshots of threat? you wanted more time to make them up i see.

    actually when you quote my screenshot ,also quote that other one before it when he asked you for epic.npc if its legit or not.

    even tho you still focusing on one part.. if this was coincidence what about both of you coc and Flagged Username asking for the same (more maxed TH 11) ( complaining about playerup middleman for delay ) ( exact words matching ).

    When i ask you more than 10 questions and you Tell me that you have explained things before won't help you at all , however these explanations were also reference to shawne lawrnce or whatever his name is or some disputes against you ( other victims ).

    how did you know the scammer intentions ? Obviously smart i was referring to the contact email you sent me to contact you ... so you need gmail to threat him to get his email? , what kind of excuse is that ? couldn't he send the gmail details via kik messenger ? Then at future i suppose middleman will make the 3 way conversation at clash of clan itself because some of buyers may not have gmail lol

    that whole debate about you having access to Flagged Username after you threat him with just terms and services of playerup makes me laugh.
     
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    so are you expecting from rolan or samsaha to step in your side just because i asked that decorations should be earned?

    at least they don't use it to scam people like you , they are helping this community and no single dispute was made against them , unlike your name which comes in dispute section every 2 weeks .

    I don't know how you live with fooling those kids who can't defend themselves or give up on their cases
     
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    @freechest you know why @Under7days keeps telling that everytime you say anything here it just keeps adding more and more reasons for us to suspect you? It's because of the way you respond, its as if you already know what are the things you will be accused of and for some reason you already have your counter like you have it prepared for this situation and it's as if you know most if not all of the loopholes that PlayerUp has and you are taking advantage of it to get you out of this mess.

    Tbh, i find your statement about the scammer surrendering his Kik credential to you because of your threat hard to believe even with those screenshots. I mean no one would believe that to be completely honest. Which is why i think that statement alone will make you lose this dispute. Like some of the people here wondered, why do this "threat" now and not when you learned about the person who is impersonating you and is doing all the scams? was it because the other disputes were only from new members who didn't know much about how PlayerUp do their service?

    From all of this, i have come to these two conclusions:
    First is you are both Flagged Username and Flagged Username.
    Second is it's true that you are not Flagged Username but you have an accomplice who is using Flagged Username to do the scamming while you are getting involve with every disputes to grow your reputation in the community.

    I don't know @Under7days and i don't know you either @freechest, the first time i heard your name was i think when you had an old dispute or just a regular report way before you got all these badges but then i never saw it again i guess it was resolved and then after that i just keep seeing you helping out a lot of disputes.

    Like i said before, you reminded me of that one member who was also very helpful in every disputes and actively suggesting ways to help the site but later got banned because he was found guilty of a dispute that was filed against him.


    Anything you want to add from your side here @Admin?
     
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    I clear all conversations every 7 days. Please provide the screenshot of the conversation which shows the full message bubble, we will then see that I was talking about the new PlayerUp Middleman 3.0 and not, as you claim, Epic.NPC Middleman.
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    Every day is different, I could be more busy on some days than others. This statement is not going to help you.
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    The words were not exact, as I can see in the screenshots. It is also normal for a buyer to ask questions about the account that they're buying and to ask if they have what is needed, or they won't proceed with the transaction.
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    I knew that the scammer had no intention of using the off Middleman because he is a scammer.
    I didn't bother to retrieve his email that was provided in the spoofed email, because it cannot be used to impersonator me. Though, Flagged Username and Flagged Username is similar.
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    I did not only backup my threat to Flagged Username about PlayerUp taking legal with the Terms of Service, I also provided screenshots to him from Admin releasing personal information from previous disputes, such as their address or ID.

    Attached is a threat I did to the cousin of Flagged Username who scammed an account from @sidd2112. @sidd2112 can confirm these screenshots.

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    In the following screenshot, you can see that he has said that Flagged Username is his cousin.
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    (The reason it says "Ignore" and "Chat" at the bottom is due to the fact that he has now blocked me.)

    @sidd2112 , please confirm this.
     
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    I just want them to review what we have been saying.
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    There has been only two other cases against me. One in which was a misunderstanding, another due to Flagged Username and this one.
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    I respond in detail and prepare ahead, this does not mean anything. I participate in debating, that is why I respond the way I do and why my English is very Proficient.
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    Please refer to the end of Post #79.

    Also, there has been only two other cases against me. One in which was a misunderstanding, another due to Flagged Username and this one. They have all been resolved, excluding this one.
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    Please refer to the end of Post #79.
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