Under Investigation Do not buy from Kevintroider12. He is a SCAMMER

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    Hey i would be willing ti buy your channel for $80. But i would need hard proof that it is yours and i need to know you arent a scammer. (I will figure it out because i have already been scammed before).
    Ok you already have my brother's paypal email

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    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Ok heres the deal. Say "Yes" if you agree to this. Im going to go out right now and get $20 for paypal. Then im going to pay you on paypal to your brothers account or whatever. Then immediately after, i will send you pics confirming this(you should be able to tell anyways). Right after you are going ti send me the account info without any waiting bullshit and ill be on my way. Ok. Reply yes if you agree.

    On Jul 5, 2017 18:47, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bro you are just scamming me out of more money. Dead love you. You definely got the money. And i will only get you another $20 if you hand over the channel now. Because as ive now you have made money and i have gained nothing. So you can get another 20 if you give me the channel now. I might even give you 40 if you just give me the channel now.

    On Jul 5, 2017 18:45, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:


    Brother, you can send 20 more that you recover in a week with my channel. please
    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Are you mental bro. In what world did you lose 40. Im the one who paid 80. You didnt pay anything. You just didnt get the last 40 so really im the one who lost money smh. Im the one who keeps losing. Please make a skype now or just give me the channel. Im not paying anymore.

    On Jul 5, 2017 18:33, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes brother but you understand me, I lost 40 send me 20 more to the account
    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Can you just make a skype real quick. It doesnt take long and its free. I just want to resolve this now so i can get the channel.

    On Jul 5, 2017 18:06, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    No bro I can not recover the money, you have to pay an extra $ 20 to not lose so much money yo, you can send it to my brother's account if you want to warn me and I intend to defraud you

    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Ok bro.... stop playing around. Im done with you. Im giving you the pics of the 2 cards i used to pay you. Just so you know im not ******* around. Take the pics, and go fix you paypal account... its bot that hard just follow instructions online. It happens to a lot of people. Give me the channel email and password and ill be on my way. Btw there is even some extra cash on the cards. CHANNEL INFO NOW.

    On Jul 5, 2017 17:11, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Friend you called paypal i something like that nor can i get my money back
    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    I literally just googled how to fix a limited paypal account and it literally gave me the exact answer how to. Stop acting like a ******* 5 year and fix your problems. Its not my fault your account is limited so please just give me the account now. Ill even link how to fix it. But im not waiting for you to fix your own damn account.

    On Jul 5, 2017 10:59, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    That you made brother my paypal has just been limited, I do not have access to it.

    2017-07-04 21:22 GMT-04:30 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Ok here is how its going to go. Ive done this whole deal on your terms, correct? Now we are doing it on mine. Im going to show my trust for you as I hope that you trust me, and i will wait until tomorrow to contact you. When i contact you after my work, which ends around 3:45 U.S eastern time, I expect you to fully hand over the channel with no more waiting bull crap. Ok? Thanks you for respecting my choice as I have respected yours. I will contacts you tomorrow as said and I better get an answer. Thanks.

    On Jul 4, 2017 21:15, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Prove that its mine bro. I know your just trying to make sure that you get the money but why do you think im scamming you? What can i do to prove that im not.

    On Jul 4, 2017 21:10, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Wait 24 hours, the channel is already yours
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:


    PayPal says not to deliver the product within 24 hours
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Bro. Please give me the channel now. Its getting late. You better not be scamming me. I gave you 80 fuckin dollars.

    On Jul 4, 2017 20:16, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Dude can you just give me the account info already and i can be done pestering you. I literally need to go to bed soon and i have work tomorrow. I need it now im being dead serious bro.

    On Jul 4, 2017 19:34, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Are you ready yet man? Ive literally waited the whole day! Its July 5th already where you are.....so please hand me the channel now.

    On Jul 4, 2017 17:17, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Ok vit you said you would be home in 15 mins like 2 hours ago so...... I better have it by the end of today, ok.

    On Jul 4, 2017 17:07, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Brother, do not come home yet, please wait
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Are you available to give me the info now? You said you were going to be home awhile ago and i dont see why you need to be home to give me the email and password.

    On Jul 4, 2017 15:47, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok sorry. Its just really suspect when you stopped replying. I sorry for pushing you but i just need to make sure i dont get scammed again.

    On Jul 4, 2017 15:45, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hey I'm home in 15 minutes relax

    2017-07-04 15:10 GMT-04:30 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Bro are being for real right now. Its been 2 hours now. You already had your chance to confirm. You owe me your account now kid. Im not joking around anymore.

    On Jul 4, 2017 2:56 PM, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Are you still here man?

    On Jul 4, 2017 2:10 PM, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Remember the part where you said you would give me the channel right after i payed the rest.......im still planning waiting....Seriously going to be pissed off if you dont give me the account and i will cancel the transaction

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:57, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Umm...........well. Are you finished confirming. I literally already gave you everything. Can i please have the channel now? Im out of time.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:42, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok please let me know quick. I have to leave my house soon and i want to have the account secured. Sorry for pushing you.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:38, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Wait a moment brother I will not steal you
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Are you still here? I sent the money and the pics confirming? You already know Im not gonna scam you because ive already paid you before. I just want the channel info and the deal will be complete. PLEASE REPLY ASAP.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:23, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Here is some more confirmation for you

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:20, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Done! Channel info please?

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:18, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok bro

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Im sending you it now but you have to promise to give it to me right after, ok? I will send you confirmation pictures but no waiting another 3 hours. I dont have time.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:14, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok. Dont get off this email. Im sending you the last of the money.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:12, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is that I comment and annoyed, I promise to send you the brother account

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    When did your mom become a factor. Does she realize that this is a 2 way street. I have no assurance that you will hand over the channel or even if you actually own the 80k channel. But i just went out to grab the rest of the cash so i can hand it over

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:04, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Paypal tells me that the money will be available, but my mother says that you send the rest of the money
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Im about to leave my house. I was wondering if everything was good now cause im trying to get this done so i dont have to worry about it later.

    On Jul 4, 2017 11:00, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    I can wait, but did you not get it? I didnt know you bumped inti a problem.

    On Jul 4, 2017 11:00, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    I just called paypal friend says wait 2 hours and the problem will be solved? you can wait ?

    2017-07-04 10:52 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Have you gotten the money yet. Because its saying it was completed and it has been an hour and a half since i sent the money.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:48, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok im going to trust you. Just please stay in contact. Im not trying to be scammed again.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:45, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    I have to wait 1 hour brother to receive the payment. When it's available I'll send you the acc I'm not a scam

    2017-07-04 9:39 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Bro are you freaking scamming me. Cause im not retarded. This is literally how my other deal went down. I went on the orher persons terms and i come out empty handed. Not cool. Please give me your channel now.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:28, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Well.....i know that you can see that i payed. So could i get the account now.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:22, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok I'll check

    2017-07-04 9:19 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Here is my proof. So please give me the account info now.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:15, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Check right now. I just used your link

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:15, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Brother I think you did not complete anything or you did wrong I did not even get the mail that you sent the money to me

    2017-07-04 9:10 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Check your paypal you should have it. Its says completed.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:03, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Brother, are you going to fool me? Send the 42usd first when I have them in my account I give you the information of the channel, I have to go to if you please finish this fast

    2017-07-04 9:01 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Ok. Your turn to hold your part of the deal.

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:56, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok, let's finish the deal..

    2017-07-04 8:52 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Look at my previous message i literally sent you a screenshot of my transaction.

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:51, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    So..... are we going to finish this deal or what?

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:48, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bruh i literally sent you ******* money!!! I knew that you werent going to ok give up your channel info. That was the freaking deal

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:45, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    No brother, I was already ripped off with a 45k channel

    2017-07-04 8:44 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Ok cool. Then can i get your account info. Thats the only way ill believe that you arent scamming me right now.I

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:39, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    It's ok brother, I'll trust you.

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Whatever.... i just sent $42..... i will send the other $38 once you give me the channel info. Heres my proof.



    On Jul 4, 2017 08:30, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Thats exactly what the other person who scammed me said...... do you have a kik becuase its easier to talk on that

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:28, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I do not have skype it's my channel bro, I'm not scam, my paypal is [email protected]
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Call my skype... chris_ng21.

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:24, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok bro

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:

    You can send 55 and then the rest
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:
    Yes bro

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Are you avaiable ti talk right now?

    On Jul 4, 2017 02:53, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    You can see everything from my channel, this is my paypal send family and friends or pay your commission, let me know when you send the money
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:


    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:

    ABelite - YouTube
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Hey i would be willing ti buy your channel for $80. But i would need hard proof that it is yours and i need to know you arent a scammer. (I will figure it out because i have already been scammed before).



    Dude you are a scammer. Unless you legit give me the account now. Ive paud you$100. Not cool. Last chance to meet our deadline. Or im going to reveal our emails and expose you so you cant scam anyone else.
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    On Jul 5, 2017 22:51, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    I would take a channel with less subs even cause clearly you ars trying to scam me.

    On Jul 5, 2017 22:48, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bud can i please get the channel now.

    On Jul 5, 2017 22:35, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Brother please. We had a fair deal. I paid yoh $100 and you are supposed to give me the channel now. No more waiting. You know you agreed to that. So please. I understand if you were busy but going silent is very suspect and it makes me think you are scamming me. Please dont. Just give me the channel.

    On Jul 5, 2017 21:59, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    So British asshole. Please respond. This isnt even funny. Im going to get you in major trouble.

    On Jul 5, 2017 9:37 PM, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bro dead love you. Can you just respond do me. Scam me whatever but love you you if you do im going to get you banned from youtube. Just let me know if you actually do so i can move on with my life. Please just give me the channel like we said. Ive lost $140 now with nothing in return. And btw if you are scamming me i literally hope you become ill and die.

    On Jul 5, 2017 21:12, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Give me the channel now

    On Jul 5, 2017 21:10, wrote:
    Respond love you hat

    On Jul 5, 2017 21:09, wrote:
    Respond

    On Jul 5, 2017 21:07, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    DUDE!!!!!! CAN YOU FREAKING ANSWER ME. I SEND THE MONEY AGAIN AND YOU JUST GO QUITE. JUST LIKE WHEN I SENT THE SECOND PAYMENT AND THE FIRST. LITERALLY F U. GIVE ME THE CHANNEL DUDE. IM BECOMING PISSED OFF AGAIN.

    On Jul 5, 2017 20:50, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bro please tell me that you didnt just scam me and you are going to give me the account right now. Cause i will withdraw the money transaction if you are scamming me.

    On Jul 5, 2017 19:57, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    [email protected]

    2017-07-05 19:26 GMT-04:30 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Ok im sending it to the one you just told me the bron one.

    On Jul 5, 2017 19:55, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Because my other brother is not.

    2017-07-05 19:24 GMT-04:30 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Ok. Cause the other one you gave me isn't working. Im sending it to your [email protected] account.

    On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:51 PM, kevin troider <[email protected]> wrote:
    Send the money to this account better if I can check it

    2017-07-05 18:26 GMT-04:30 kevin troider <[email protected]>:

    Brother you will win 20 dollars in a video with my channel, send 20 to my brother's account [email protected]
    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Bro you are just scamming me out of more money. Dead love you. You definely got the money. And i will only get you another $20 if you hand over the channel now. Because as ive now you have made money and i have gained nothing. So you can get another 20 if you give me the channel now. I might even give you 40 if you just give me the channel now.

    On Jul 5, 2017 18:45, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:


    Brother, you can send 20 more that you recover in a week with my channel. please
    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Are you mental bro. In what world did you lose 40. Im the one who paid 80. You didnt pay anything. You just didnt get the last 40 so really im the one who lost money smh. Im the one who keeps losing. Please make a skype now or just give me the channel. Im not paying anymore.

    On Jul 5, 2017 18:33, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes brother but you understand me, I lost 40 send me 20 more to the account
    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Can you just make a skype real quick. It doesnt take long and its free. I just want to resolve this now so i can get the channel.

    On Jul 5, 2017 18:06, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    No bro I can not recover the money, you have to pay an extra $ 20 to not lose so much money yo, you can send it to my brother's account if you want to warn me and I intend to defraud you

    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Ok bro.... stop playing around. Im done with you. Im giving you the pics of the 2 cards i used to pay you. Just so you know im not ******* around. Take the pics, and go fix you paypal account... its bot that hard just follow instructions online. It happens to a lot of people. Give me the channel email and password and ill be on my way. Btw there is even some extra cash on the cards. CHANNEL INFO NOW.

    On Jul 5, 2017 17:11, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Friend you called paypal i something like that nor can i get my money back
    El miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    I literally just googled how to fix a limited paypal account and it literally gave me the exact answer how to. Stop acting like a ******* 5 year and fix your problems. Its not my fault your account is limited so please just give me the account now. Ill even link how to fix it. But im not waiting for you to fix your own damn account.

    On Jul 5, 2017 10:59, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    That you made brother my paypal has just been limited, I do not have access to it.

    2017-07-04 21:22 GMT-04:30 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Ok here is how its going to go. Ive done this whole deal on your terms, correct? Now we are doing it on mine. Im going to show my trust for you as I hope that you trust me, and i will wait until tomorrow to contact you. When i contact you after my work, which ends around 3:45 U.S eastern time, I expect you to fully hand over the channel with no more waiting bull crap. Ok? Thanks you for respecting my choice as I have respected yours. I will contacts you tomorrow as said and I better get an answer. Thanks.

    On Jul 4, 2017 21:15, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Prove that its mine bro. I know your just trying to make sure that you get the money but why do you think im scamming you? What can i do to prove that im not.

    On Jul 4, 2017 21:10, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Wait 24 hours, the channel is already yours
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:


    PayPal says not to deliver the product within 24 hours
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Bro. Please give me the channel now. Its getting late. You better not be scamming me. I gave you 80 fuckin dollars.

    On Jul 4, 2017 20:16, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Dude can you just give me the account info already and i can be done pestering you. I literally need to go to bed soon and i have work tomorrow. I need it now im being dead serious bro.

    On Jul 4, 2017 19:34, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Are you ready yet man? Ive literally waited the whole day! Its July 5th already where you are.....so please hand me the channel now.

    On Jul 4, 2017 17:17, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Ok vit you said you would be home in 15 mins like 2 hours ago so...... I better have it by the end of today, ok.

    On Jul 4, 2017 17:07, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Brother, do not come home yet, please wait
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Are you available to give me the info now? You said you were going to be home awhile ago and i dont see why you need to be home to give me the email and password.

    On Jul 4, 2017 15:47, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok sorry. Its just really suspect when you stopped replying. I sorry for pushing you but i just need to make sure i dont get scammed again.

    On Jul 4, 2017 15:45, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hey I'm home in 15 minutes relax

    2017-07-04 15:10 GMT-04:30 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Bro are being for real right now. Its been 2 hours now. You already had your chance to confirm. You owe me your account now kid. Im not joking around anymore.

    On Jul 4, 2017 2:56 PM, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Are you still here man?

    On Jul 4, 2017 2:10 PM, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Remember the part where you said you would give me the channel right after i payed the rest.......im still planning waiting....Seriously going to be pissed off if you dont give me the account and i will cancel the transaction

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:57, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Umm...........well. Are you finished confirming. I literally already gave you everything. Can i please have the channel now? Im out of time.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:42, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok please let me know quick. I have to leave my house soon and i want to have the account secured. Sorry for pushing you.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:38, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Wait a moment brother I will not steal you
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Are you still here? I sent the money and the pics confirming? You already know Im not gonna scam you because ive already paid you before. I just want the channel info and the deal will be complete. PLEASE REPLY ASAP.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:23, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Here is some more confirmation for you

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:20, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Done! Channel info please?

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:18, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok bro

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Im sending you it now but you have to promise to give it to me right after, ok? I will send you confirmation pictures but no waiting another 3 hours. I dont have time.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:14, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok. Dont get off this email. Im sending you the last of the money.

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:12, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is that I comment and annoyed, I promise to send you the brother account

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    When did your mom become a factor. Does she realize that this is a 2 way street. I have no assurance that you will hand over the channel or even if you actually own the 80k channel. But i just went out to grab the rest of the cash so i can hand it over

    On Jul 4, 2017 13:04, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Paypal tells me that the money will be available, but my mother says that you send the rest of the money
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Im about to leave my house. I was wondering if everything was good now cause im trying to get this done so i dont have to worry about it later.

    On Jul 4, 2017 11:00, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    I can wait, but did you not get it? I didnt know you bumped inti a problem.

    On Jul 4, 2017 11:00, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    I just called paypal friend says wait 2 hours and the problem will be solved? you can wait ?

    2017-07-04 10:52 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Have you gotten the money yet. Because its saying it was completed and it has been an hour and a half since i sent the money.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:48, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok im going to trust you. Just please stay in contact. Im not trying to be scammed again.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:45, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    I have to wait 1 hour brother to receive the payment. When it's available I'll send you the acc I'm not a scam

    2017-07-04 9:39 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Bro are you freaking scamming me. Cause im not retarded. This is literally how my other deal went down. I went on the orher persons terms and i come out empty handed. Not cool. Please give me your channel now.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:28, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Well.....i know that you can see that i payed. So could i get the account now.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:22, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok I'll check

    2017-07-04 9:19 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Here is my proof. So please give me the account info now.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:15, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Check right now. I just used your link

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:15, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Brother I think you did not complete anything or you did wrong I did not even get the mail that you sent the money to me

    2017-07-04 9:10 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Check your paypal you should have it. Its says completed.

    On Jul 4, 2017 09:03, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Brother, are you going to fool me? Send the 42usd first when I have them in my account I give you the information of the channel, I have to go to if you please finish this fast

    2017-07-04 9:01 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Ok. Your turn to hold your part of the deal.

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:56, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok, let's finish the deal..

    2017-07-04 8:52 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Look at my previous message i literally sent you a screenshot of my transaction.

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:51, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    So..... are we going to finish this deal or what?

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:48, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Bruh i literally sent you ******* money!!! I knew that you werent going to ok give up your channel info. That was the freaking deal

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:45, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    No brother, I was already ripped off with a 45k channel

    2017-07-04 8:44 GMT-04:00 Chris Ng <[email protected]>:
    Ok cool. Then can i get your account info. Thats the only way ill believe that you arent scamming me right now.I

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:39, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    It's ok brother, I'll trust you.

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Whatever.... i just sent $42..... i will send the other $38 once you give me the channel info. Heres my proof.



    On Jul 4, 2017 08:30, "Chris Ng" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Thats exactly what the other person who scammed me said...... do you have a kik becuase its easier to talk on that

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:28, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I do not have skype it's my channel bro, I'm not scam, my paypal is [email protected]
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Call my skype... chris_ng21.

    On Jul 4, 2017 08:24, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ok bro

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:

    You can send 55 and then the rest
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:
    Yes bro

    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Are you avaiable ti talk right now?

    On Jul 4, 2017 02:53, "kevin troider" <[email protected]> wrote:

    You can see everything from my channel, this is my paypal send family and friends or pay your commission, let me know when you send the money
    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:


    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, kevin troider <[email protected]> escribió:

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    El martes, 4 de julio de 2017, Chris Ng <[email protected]> escribió:
    Hey i would be willing ti buy your channel for $80. But i would need hard proof that it is yours and i need to know you arent a scammer. (I will figure it out because i have already been scammed before).

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    What can you do next to resolve this issue?
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