Under Investigation Benimuller1 scammed me

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    How to Report a Dispute
    Please fill out all 9 questions below. You must provide proof or your claim cannot be validated.

    1. Date Dispute Happened
    09/06/2017

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    I'm the Buyer

    3. Total Transaction Value
    £12.30

    4. Other Parties Username
    Benimuller1

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    PayPal

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    [email protected] (Skype)

    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
    [email protected]

    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    [email protected] (Skype)

    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below
    [19:09:34] beni muller: 25 usd bro
    [19:09:52] beni muller: Since he can not keep the account for you
    [19:10:00] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ?
    [19:10:02] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Who?
    [19:10:12] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ok
    [19:10:28] 19p | AzaMC Manager: How much did you sell the other account for? Just wondering?
    [19:10:42] beni muller: 30 usd bro
    [19:11:02] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Wut you sold the 11k for 30usd but you're selling me the 16k one for 25usd?
    [19:12:19] beni muller: 11k subs sold for 30 usd
    [19:12:33] 19p | AzaMC Manager: oo nice
    [19:12:43] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Thing is
    [19:12:45] 19p | AzaMC Manager: I would buy
    [19:12:52] 19p | AzaMC Manager: but I'm scared of being scammed
    [19:12:56] 19p | AzaMC Manager: I got scammed bad before
    [19:13:12] beni muller: noo bro im never scammer
    [19:13:14] beni muller: trust me
    [19:13:15] beni muller: please
    [19:13:40] 19p | AzaMC Manager: I really don't know
    [19:13:49] 19p | AzaMC Manager: The person who scammed me said they won't scam
    [19:13:50] 19p | AzaMC Manager: but they did
    [19:13:51] 19p | AzaMC Manager: :(
    [19:14:21] beni muller: This time you will have your friend account
    [19:14:28] beni muller: anyway I will start to record if your interested to buy accounts from
    me, if something goes bad i will refund bro
    [19:14:46] 19p | AzaMC Manager: What do you mean refund?
    [19:15:16] beni muller: If something goes wrong I'll give you the money right away.
    [19:15:18] beni muller: <(
    [19:15:27] beni muller: ;)
    [19:16:07] 19p | AzaMC Manager: I don't know if this will work for you but are you able to give me the account first just so I know you won't scam then I'll pay
    [19:16:25] 19p | AzaMC Manager: It's ok if you don't want to
    [19:16:28] 19p | AzaMC Manager: I understand
    [19:17:23] beni muller: Bro if you want to send half so the money is not so much and you can trust me
    [19:17:25] beni muller: I also understand if you do not want to
    [19:17:36] beni muller: Pp [email protected]
    [19:18:07] 19p | AzaMC Manager: What do you mean send half?
    [19:18:17] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Half then you give account
    [19:18:18] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ?
    [19:18:20] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ???
    [19:18:55] beni muller: yes, but Then you have to send me the rest of the money
    [19:19:20] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ooh ok
    [19:19:27] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Let me see how much 25 usd is in £
    [19:19:51] beni muller: dude But you can expect me to send the money to verify the two payment
    [19:20:07] beni muller: ohh ok bro
    [19:20:08] beni muller: Np
    [19:20:27] 19p | AzaMC Manager: What do you mean send money to verify?
    [19:20:31] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Sorry for all the questions xD
    [19:21:18] beni muller: I'll tell you to send the money, to verify the payment your self and that of the other boy
    [19:21:32] beni muller: [09/06/2017 13:39:43] Amanda Horton: Ok. I'll buy it. Give me twenty minutes and I'll send money. What's email address?
    [09/06/2017 13:40:07] Amanda Horton: To pay on PayPal
    [09/06/2017 13:40:12] beni muller: Pp [email protected]
    [09/06/2017 13:40:41] Amanda Horton: Ok I'll message you once I send money
    [09/06/2017 13:40:58] beni muller: thanks <3 guy, let me know
    [19:22:40] 19p | AzaMC Manager: 25 USD = £19.67
    [19:22:51] 19p | AzaMC Manager: So Half is £9.83
    [19:23:10] beni muller: sure ? im check xD
    [19:23:14] beni muller: 5 min bro
    [19:23:16] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Yes
    [19:23:16] beni muller: xD
    [19:23:16] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Sure
    [19:25:25] beni muller: ohh really bro Because your coin is worth more
    [19:25:26] beni muller: xD
    [19:25:27] beni muller: lol
    [19:26:30] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Yeah
    [19:26:32] 19p | AzaMC Manager: :P
    [19:26:38] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Well, it's worth less
    [19:26:43] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Because of brexit you know
    [19:26:44] 19p | AzaMC Manager: lol
    [19:26:52] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Did you check?
    [19:27:24] beni muller: Yes hi haha go crazy when I saw that
    [19:28:59] beni muller: ok bro sent money
    [19:29:13] beni muller: And the other boy sending
    [19:29:18] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Who?
    [19:29:26] beni muller: Waiting for your payment
    [19:29:33] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Okay, give me a sec
    [19:29:36] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Wait
    [19:29:38] beni muller: ;) ok
    [19:29:45] 19p | AzaMC Manager: what did you mean "And the other boy sending"
    [19:30:17] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ?
    [19:30:30] beni muller: amanda horton
    [19:30:36] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Oh ok
    [19:31:35] 19p | AzaMC Manager: what is this?
    [19:31:54] beni muller: Account overwatch
    [19:32:02] 19p | AzaMC Manager: oh haha
    [19:32:11] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Ok just to confirm -
    [19:32:34] beni muller: xD no problem bro I understand you
    [19:32:44] 19p | AzaMC Manager: I'll send £9.83 first, then you give me account, then I give £9.83 (other half) then we're done?
    [19:33:09] beni muller: right bro
    [19:33:47] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Ok I'll be sending money now
    [19:33:49] 19p | AzaMC Manager: :)
    [19:34:01] beni muller: ok bro 1 sec to check and sent your account
    [19:34:03] beni muller: ok
    [19:34:06] 19p | AzaMC Manager: sure
    [19:34:12] beni muller: thanks bro <3
    [19:34:20] 19p | AzaMC Manager: np
    [19:35:23] 19p | AzaMC Manager: [email protected] right?
    [19:35:39] beni muller: right bro
    [19:35:43] beni muller: done ?
    [19:35:49] 19p | AzaMC Manager: sending
    [19:36:16] beni muller: I do not see the payment
    [19:36:26] 19p | AzaMC Manager: I'm sorting it now don't worry
    [19:36:38] beni muller: Refresh the page one more time
    [19:36:53] beni muller: ohh ok
    [19:36:53] beni muller: xD
    [19:37:15] 19p | AzaMC Manager: sent
    [19:37:20] beni muller: im check
    [19:37:28] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Gyazo - d800086a3f2667299fe3da0f3d682908.png
    [19:38:22] beni muller: ok bro
    [19:38:26] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Yeah?
    [19:38:30] 19p | AzaMC Manager: You got it?
    [19:38:32] beni muller: im login
    [19:38:34] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ok
    [19:38:34] beni muller: my paypal
    [19:40:06] beni muller: Give me a moment that will not let me in from my pc, I'll get on my phone
    [19:40:11] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ok
    [19:40:23] beni muller: I'll send you a photo when I check
    [19:40:28] 19p | AzaMC Manager: thanks
    [19:40:33] beni muller: ;)
    [19:43:21] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Hello?
    [19:43:31] beni muller: ok im back
    [19:43:35] beni muller: sent you account now
    [19:43:41] 19p | AzaMC Manager: where?
    [19:43:50] beni muller: yep
    [19:43:54] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ?
    [19:43:57] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Where is the account
    [19:44:34] beni muller: I'm going to send it to you
    [19:44:43] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ok
    [19:46:10] beni muller: ok Email is [email protected] pw Porlj190
    [19:46:13] beni muller: let me know bro
    [19:46:15] beni muller: please
    [19:46:17] beni muller: ;)
    [19:46:21] 19p | AzaMC Manager: ill check
    [19:46:25] beni muller: ok
    [19:46:54] 19p | AzaMC Manager: Doesn't work
    [19:47:19] *** 19p | AzaMC Manager would like to add you on Skype

    Hi beni muller, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
    [19:49:13] *** Call to beni muller, no answer. ***
    [19:49:48] *** Call to beni muller, no answer. ***
    [19:51:13] *** Call to beni muller, no answer. ***
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    How can you protect yourself from these type of scams in the future?
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