Stole Money JOEYCR is a FRAUD

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    I included all the chat logs below.
    Also the review that the user has in his profile is fake.
    He blocked me soon after I sent the payment - this is my fault for being a fool.
    Please take action to prevent other people from being victimized.

    1. Date Dispute Happened
    may 27,2017

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    BUYER


    3. Total Transaction Value
    $250

    4. Other Parties Username
    JoeyCR

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    I gave giftcards as he requested

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    Example: [email protected]

    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
    n/a

    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    hangout: Flemzy --> linked to Google ID
    Kik: JewsplayerUP

    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below

    Friday, May 26, 2017 10:35 AM
    [​IMG]



    raum royale
    Hi this is about the CR acct

    Flemzy
    Hi how may I help you?
    Yes, what questions do you have?
    I'm at work right now so may not answer right away.

    raum royale
    Hi I'd like to know the card levels, availability of name change , is it iOS or android , is it linked , and price
    No worries

    Flemzy
    You've seen the screenshots correct?
    It's iOS and can be linked with android I can help you with that
    Name change is available. :)

    raum royale
    Will you turn over the Apple ID emails and security questions ?

    Flemzy
    Yes, Apple ID Game Center and Apple ID emails and security question answers of course so it's yours

    raum royale
    Ok
    What is your asking price man

    Flemzy
    Price is determined by payment method bro, make an offer
    No lowball please

    raum royale
    What methods are you accepting ?

    Flemzy
    BTC + Gift Cards
    Be right back

    raum royale
    I don't think I have btc

    Flemzy

    Can you check it out?

    raum royale

    Check what out?
    I can pay by PayPal
    I have a verified acct
    Do lots of business online

    Flemzy

    I do not have paypal sorry

    raum royale

    Hmm through the site then ?
    I don't know enough about btc to use it

    Flemzy

    I can do through the site, but it's much more expensive because payment holds and tax rates
    I can do gift cards which you can pay by PayPal. You can dispute on there if anything goes wrong

    raum royale

    Hmm what gift cards ?

    Flemzy

    sorry for not reposnding
    https://www.paypal-gifts.com/us/brands/steam-digital-wallet-code.html
    I'm interested in steam gaming, thats why im leaving Clash royale.

    raum royale

    Ok so how much of those do you need ?

    Flemzy

    Give me your budget lol

    raum royale

    500?

    Flemzy

    nah that's lowballing lol

    raum royale

    Tell me what's fair then
    Im not low balling I really have no idea what's a fair starting amount

    Flemzy

    I could possibly do 600$ through paypal gift cards if you'd like. That's the best I can do
    not lowballing sorry, just not the amount i want
    Would that be possible for you?

    raum royale

    Hmm do you have a fb to link to ?
    So I can see the acct

    Flemzy

    no I don't use facebook I used instagram
    but I can't give it out because it's for my family purposes

    raum royale

    I see , was hoping to verify you are the owner

    Flemzy

    eh sorry xD.

    raum royale

    Let me review the pics again

    Flemzy

    I've been playing since the game came out, I've invested 300$+ in this game so just want some profit

    raum royale

    I see
    Are the screenshots the most recent ones ?

    Flemzy

    no, they were tooken 2-3 weeks ago

    raum royale

    But card stats are the same ?
    Levels etc

    Flemzy

    of course, of course. Everything on the pictures will be provided [​IMG]

    raum royale

    Ok let me review the acct again

    Flemzy

    okay [​IMG]
    do you know when you can possibly do this?
    you still there raum

    raum royale

    Hi

    Flemzy

    Hey

    raum royale

    Sorry it must be late there

    Flemzy

    yes lol

    raum royale

    I'm also a little busy at work
    I'm in Tokyo

    Flemzy

    so are you interested?
    ah cool

    raum royale

    Yes I am
    But i need to review the acct more and calculate how much more I will need to max this more
    So I need some time

    Flemzy

    okay [​IMG]
    what time is it for you right now?

    raum royale

    It's almost 12 noon

    Flemzy

    oh okay
    it is 9:49 PM for me
    so I'm going to sleep soon
    do you know when you can do this if you want the account?

    raum royale

    Ok
    Well let me contact you soon
    Maybe in 12-24 hours we can come to an agreement
    I am still finding the price a little high so I need to calculate things

    Flemzy

    okay that's great. If i receive a better offer than you, I will let you know

    raum royale

    Sure
    No worries

    Flemzy

    good night

    raum royale

    Gnyt

    Friday, May 26, 2017 11:15 PM
    [​IMG]



    Flemzy

    Good morning
    Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:04 AM
    [​IMG]



    raum royale

    Morning to you bro
    Sorry I was asleep

    Flemzy

    Hi
    Hello [​IMG]
    have you thought about it?

    Flemzy

    you there?

    raum royale

    Hey man sorry busy morning and all

    Flemzy

    no problem I was at work for the whole day

    raum royale

    Yes I have and I ran the costs I'll have to pass on the offer for now

    Flemzy

    I'm available [​IMG]
    would making the account cheaper be better?

    raum royale

    I think when we factor in the costs for maxing , we cannot afford to pay much for an acct now

    Flemzy

    How much do you offer at your best?
    What price would satisfy you?
    I'm going to eat dinner right now, message me with the most you are willing to do, I'm open to any offers.

    raum royale

    Ok man , let me think about it a little more
    Btw which legendaries are lvl 4?
    I didn't see any at the screenshot
    Or I just missed them

    Flemzy

    There are no 4s yet, most are 3 5/10
    That's another reason I'm able to change prices

    raum royale

    Ah I see , I was wondering why the listing said that
    Epics and legends need a bit of work
    What do you think about 200

    Flemzy

    Uh what was our old price?
    500?

    raum royale

    500 was my old offer but i was under the assumption there were lvl 4 legends
    My mistake for not checking

    Flemzy

    Would you do 300 USD right now?
    Meet in the middle?
    It has name change as well
    So that's a bonus

    raum royale

    Yeah the name change is useful but not entirely critical for our use
    Tell you what 240

    Flemzy

    I can do 250 but only in the next 4 hours
    That's the least I can do
    To make a bit profit and cash

    raum royale

    And what method of payment will you accept -"man ?

    Flemzy

    [​IMG]
    Here's some feedback I sold my clash of clans base to a guy
    I sold it for 325$

    raum royale

    That's awesome and good to hear

    Flemzy

    I accept Bitcoin / Steam Gift Cards
    Yeah :)

    raum royale

    I've never done both , is the steam card simple to do ?

    Flemzy

    It's honestly very simple

    raum royale

    I kinda don't trust complicated payment schemes
    Ok
    So I buy a card or something ?
    Did he pay by steam card ?

    Flemzy

    https://www.paypal-gifts.com/us/brands/steam-digital-wallet-code.html
    He paid 250 steam gift card and sent me 75 in bitcoin

    raum royale

    So I just get 250 with and send to you

    Flemzy

    You just buy it and send it to yourself and just tell me the code and I check it and if it's good I'll send the full information of the account to get you going :)
    And if you can leave feedback that'd be just dandy

    raum royale

    At the site ? Sure man
    Ok

    Flemzy

    Yeah

    raum royale

    Well I'm gonna trust you , you seem like a straight fellow
    Because once I send the codes there's kinda no protection lol

    Flemzy

    Yeah lol. I don't want any trouble with you or anyone

    raum royale

    Ok

    Flemzy

    Lol I won't let you down

    raum royale

    Say
    In need like an hour or son
    So
    Because my kid is running all over the place
    Where do I send codes ?
    Here ?

    Flemzy

    Okay- would you be able to do this in around 1 hour and 30 minutes?
    Yeah here is fine

    raum royale

    Yeah within that time I can
    Flemzy

    Great

    raum royale

    Can you get the acct info ready too
    Like all access info

    Flemzy

    Yeah, I wrote it down a piece of paper
    Security questions and all
    All ready for you :)

    raum royale

    Awesome sorry for the delay
    Baby running loose

    Flemzy

    It's fine no trouble

    raum royale

    Brb

    Flemzy

    See you

    raum royale

    Btw I know this isn't in your offer but did you get the night witch ?

    Flemzy

    No unfortunately I have not been on for a week or so
    Just have my Apple ID and google login
    Ready for sale , everything shown will be provided

    raum royale

    Ok got it , I'm trying to get it for multiple acct s
    Pretty neat card
    Ok I'll set up the payments , brb
    So I'm gonna get $100x2
    $50x1

    Flemzy

    Yeah
    Message me when ready I'll be ready in a hour or so

    raum royale

    Ok
    Same for me

    raum royale

    Oh damn
    The site is not accepting my payment since I'm outside the US
    I'm looking for other vendors
    Ok I found other vendors

    Flemzy

    Hi I'm back
    Alright cool
    You can just search steam gift cards on google and look for them from different websites

    raum royale

    Yeah I'm trying to set new accounts

    Flemzy

    For clash ROYALE or wha
    What

    raum royale

    To the sites selling
    Trey have all those requirements s

    Flemzy

    Oh okay

    raum royale

    Extra requirements inmean

    Flemzy

    What ever works for you :)
    I'll be here for the next 3 hours or so
    Till I go to sleep

    raum royale

    Ok

    Flemzy

    That should be enough time right?

    raum royale

    Yes

    Flemzy

    [​IMG]
    raum royale

    Hey man I'm buying from a site which has this verification thing
    So it's taking some time

    Flemzy

    that's fine

    raum royale

    I've already paid so I hope they resolve it quickly

    Flemzy

    oh okay
    I can wait

    raum royale

    Ok
    Shouldn't be too long
    Hmm
    Pls wait a bit sorry

    Flemzy

    okay
    why? is there something wrong?

    raum royale

    Only 150 went through
    I have codes for 150

    Flemzy

    oh okay

    raum royale

    Damn site stopping me from getting 100 more

    Flemzy

    just buy the other 100 lol
    no problem
    take your time

    raum royale

    In need a new site
    Lol

    Flemzy

    anything yet?

    raum royale

    Hm
    Site not getting back to me

    Flemzy

    you got the 150 codes right?

    raum royale

    Yes those I have

    Flemzy

    just go to a different site and buy the other 100
    brb

    raum royale

    Precisely what I'm doing
    Same problem
    Hm, I think this will take much time than is possible to just wait it out
    I've contacted PayPal

    Flemzy

    whats the error message?

    raum royale

    Not allowing me to pay basically
    Either it's site or my PayPal acct
    Hence why i messaged PayPal

    Flemzy

    okay
    can I see if the first 150 will work?
    if you don't mind

    raum royale

    Sure hold up

    Flemzy

    okay

    raum royale

    Damn I have to manually type lol wait

    Flemzy

    its fine [​IMG]

    raum royale

    P6H2V-Q028L-J52EH
    WZPHG-F2CLH-G9RFA
    GC6WC-MEBNJ-FI8NW
    Each are 50

    Flemzy

    okay hold on
    Nice they work. Hit me up when you have the other 100 so I can send you the account info

    raum royale

    Ok man I'm just getting verification

    Flemzy

    cool

    raum royale

    They are literally checking my face on the site
    Do you need to go already?
    Got it
    Let me know when you're ready

    Flemzy

    Im ready
    Send it and i'll check and im ready to send the login

    raum royale

    MK0EM-KVATQ-LBA5D

    Whew
     
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    @raumfahrer

    How can you protect yourself from these type of scams in the future?
    I strongly recommend in the future to use PlayerUp Middleman Services to protect yourself from these type of scams. Here is how it works for buyers (Middleman: Buyers Guide | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform. and here is how it works for sellers (Middleman: Sellers Guide | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

    What can you do next to resolve this issue?
    Since this is an off-site transaction, you need to immediately open a dispute with the company you used to transfer the money, hopefully before the seller moves those funds. Unfortunately, you cannot file a dispute because you paid the user with gift cards, this means that the user would have already redeemed the codes on the cards.

    Can PlayerUp provide compensation for this dispute?
    Since this is a non middleman transaction and PlayerUp wasn't directly involved with safeguarding your payment and guaranteeing your transaction we will unfortunately not be able to provide any compensation for you on this transaction as you dealt directly with the individual for which you're submitting a complaint against in this ticket. However if you're able to locate his full name and address, we can possibly go after him but there is no guarantee we'll be able to recover any lost property or funds - Guide - Combat Fraud Service | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

    How can I protect myself in the future?
    We strongly advise that you don't conduct business offsite. This is the #1 way scammers attract buyers and sellers is they lure them offsite and then bait them into anything because they have no consequences for their actions. If you did business on site, then disregard this message as the majority of scams are done offsite.
     
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    Joeyjin is a well known scammer
    @Admin i requested you to take action against this guy earlier.

    he is still here with fake account again.

    he scammed dozens of people here.

    you should take strict action or legal case against him.

    @J0eyCR you have crossed your all limits.
     
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    Lol your fault you dumbass
     
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    Ah samsha, I have made over 30 grand I stealing money online. Never been caught. I have other 30+ accounts on this website working ATM and other selling accounts. Yes I am a scammer. Lol too bad :) I love made 30k in less than 6 months. This is my job. This is my career. It won't stop.
     
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    and he is using other accounts to log negative feedback against other users or people who complain

    ex. remzy filed a negative feedback complaint against me - lol

    go ahead I don;t care - never using these platforms again
    incredibly risky for all
     
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    Just use playerup middleman to be safe from all kind of scams.
     
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    Jail is your future.
     
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    I am here don't worry.i will personally moderate every thread from now and make sure all scammers are banned from this site :)
     
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    How can you protect yourself from these type of scams in the future?
    I strongly recommend in the future to use PlayerUp Middleman Services to protect yourself from these type of scams. Here is how it works for buyers (Middleman: Buyers Guide | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform. and here is how it works for sellers (Middleman: Sellers Guide | PlayerUp AccountsMarketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

    I also suggest to buy from well-known sellers with a high reputation and good feedback.


    Can PlayerUp provide compensation for this dispute?
    Since this is a non middleman transaction and PlayerUp wasn't directly involved with safeguarding your payment and guaranteeing your transaction, we will unfortunately not be able to provide any compensation for you on this transaction as you dealt directly with the individual for which you're submitting a complaint against in this ticket. However, if you're able to locate his full name and address, we can possibly go after him but there is no guarantee we'll be able to recover any lost property or funds - Guide - Combat Fraud Service | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.
     
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    [trigger]Guide - How To Report A Dispute

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    If someone you believe has scammed you, please open a Dispute Form Here. Filing a report takes 2 minutes and will then provide us the necessary information to take action against the individual and assist you at resolving the dispute. Thank you for your cooperation on this matter and sorry to hear about the problems you experienced.

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    [trigger=by]For: freechest Re: #14[/trigger]
     
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    User auto banned already.
     
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    If he signs up again in the future, he will be auto banned. Made some adjustments.
     
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    kindly remove the false negative d
    feedback from raumfahrer
     
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    Done.
     
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    thanks to everyone here, i have learned my lesson - just hope others don;t fall for the same thing
     
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