Stole Money Scammed by fake discord middleman/seller

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    How to Report a Dispute
    Please fill out all 9 questions below. You must provide proof or your claim cannot be validated.

    1. Date Dispute Happened
    November 2, 2024

    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    I'm the Buyer

    3. Total Transaction Value
    Example: 2 MYR 200 Gift Cards/$93

    4. Other Parties Username
    Sepulonker. on discord but he changed his username now.
    The middleman's discord username I believe was Seaples but the discord chat got deleted and I have no way of getting it.

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    2 Touch ‘n Go Pin MYR 200 (MY) Gift Cards

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    I don't know

    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
    I don't know

    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    Sepulonker. was his username before he changed it and I think the middleman's name was Seaples or something

    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below
    This was my discord log with Sepulonker. before he changed his username and blocked me and after he deleted all his messages. The server with the middleman was deleted and I have no way of getting them back. The middleman had already received my payment and his account. But, he deleted the chats before I could get the account and never messaged me. The middleman and the seller were in on this together so even though nothing can be done about the seller, please ban the middleman.
    1. lets use playerup for the mm




    2. [12:10 PM]
      https://www.playerup.com/tradeguardian/ my username on there is mufasa4213





      November 2, 2024
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      Mufasa4213 — Yesterday at 10:15 AM
      Yeah that’s also fine with me




    4. [10:16 AM]
      I’ll go with PayPal




    5. [10:16 AM]
      Is the site safer?




    6. [10:17 AM]
      If they’re both the same then which ever one is easier

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      Mufasa4213 — Yesterday at 10:17 AM
      That’s fine
    8. [10:17 AM]
      We can do discord then
    9. [10:18 AM]
      How long until we get the mm?
    10. [10:18 AM]
      On average
    11. [10:18 AM]
      I go to work in an hour and a half
    12. [10:18 AM]
      If we can finish before then that’s fine with me
    13. [10:19 AM]
      Let’s go for it then
    14. [10:19 AM]
      Okay




    15. [10:19 AM]
      Email: [email protected]




    16. [10:20 AM]
      Just in case




    17. [10:20 AM]
      Email
    18. [10:21 AM]
      Yeah no problem




    19. [10:22 AM]
      Yeah
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      Mufasa4213 — Yesterday at 10:32 AM
      Yeah I got it




    21. [10:39 AM]
      Do you just not have a PayPal account?
    22. [10:39 AM]
      Oh okay




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      Mufasa4213 — Yesterday at 10:39 AM
      What other methods did you say you had




    24. [10:40 AM]
      I won’t do bank transfer
    25. [10:40 AM]
      And I haven’t done anything with bitcoin before




    26. [10:40 AM]
      How would I do that




    27. [10:40 AM]
      Yeah I should




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      Mufasa4213 — Yesterday at 10:47 AM
      Do you know how I would do the gift card method




    29. [10:48 AM]
      Yeah if there’s a specific one I should get




    30. [10:50 AM]
      We should tell him first if that’s okay before I buy them
     
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    Obvious fake middleman scam and I see middleman onsite already responded to you.
     
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    Do you use K,I,K, Skype, or another messenger service?
    No. All middleman transactions are done through PlayerUp.com for security reasons. Anyone who attempts to contact you through a 3rd party messenger claiming they are us is fraudulent.

    When should I release my account information to the buyer?

    Never release your account information unless (@Middleman) contacts you through the PlayerUp Conversation Ticket System. We will never contact you through e-mail, K,I,K, skype, or any 3rd party service. All middleman transactions are done through PlayerUp.com for security reasons.

    For more information, please visit this link: Middleman: Sellers Guide | PlayerUp - Video Game Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.
     
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    1. PlayerUp doesn't do business on "discord". Anyone claiming they're a middleman on discord from PlayerUp is conning you. Our middleman service is exclusively done on PlayerUp only for these exact reasons you're explaining above. Anyone who messages you offsite saying they represent PlayerUp is 100% a scam.

    2. You should report the issue to discord since the transaction was done on discord.

    3. Use actual middleman services onsite to avoid these conflicts in the future.
     
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    How can you protect yourself from these type of scams in the future?
    I strongly recommend in the future to use PlayerUp Middleman Services to protect yourself from these type of scams. Here is how it works for buyers (Buyers Guide) and here is how it works for sellers (Sellers Guide).

    Is there anything we can do to assist you still with this dispute?
    Please read this guide (Guide - Combat Fraud Service). All we need is the scammers full name and address and we can assist you further.

    What can you do next to resolve this issue?
    Since this is a PayPal transaction, you need to immediately go to PayPal and open a dispute hopefully before the seller moves those funds. In order to do that, go to your paypal receipt, and see the area where it says resolution or dispute payment. Open a dispute and provide them as much proof as possible. Contact PayPal as well and ask them what you need to do to win a dispute. Keep in constant communication with paypal. If you sent the payment by family and friends then unfortunately those funds are lost as you cannot dispute those payments and we strongly advise against sending friends and family payments in the future even if the seller requires it you can easily say no. For more information, please contact PayPal.

    Can PlayerUp provide compensation for this dispute?
    Since this is a non middleman transaction and PlayerUp wasn't directly involved with safeguarding your payment and guaranteeing your transaction we will unfortunately not be able to provide any compensation for you on this transaction as you dealt directly with the individual for which you're submitting a complaint against in this ticket. However if you're able to locate his full name and address, we can possibly go after him but there is no guarantee we'll be able to recover any lost funds - Guide - Combat Fraud Service

    How can I protect myself in the future?
    We strongly advise that you don't conduct business offsite. This is the #1 way scammers attract buyers and sellers is they lure them offsite and then bait them into anything because they have no consequences for their actions. If you did business on site, then disregard this message as the majority of scams are done offsite.














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