Stole Money scammer (fraud)

How to Report a Dispute
Please fill out all 9 questions below. You must provide proof or your claim cannot be validated.

1. Date Dispute Happened
June 30, 2016

2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
I'm the Buyer

3. Total Transaction Value
$25 USD

4. Other Parties Username
ksukol

5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
PayPal

6. Other Parties Email Addresses
[email protected]

7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
[email protected]

8. Other Parties Messenger Username
none given

9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below

1. themocrew
   i'll buy right now for $25, let me know your choice. PlayerUp: themocrew
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:25 PM
2. 
   ksukol
   Hello, no problem but do you accept middleman safe service?
   
   ksukol, Today at 5:26 PM
3. 
   themocrew
   ofcourse
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:26 PM
4. 
   themocrew
   before we start i'd like to chat with you
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:26 PM
5. 
   ksukol
   Ok, what payment method do you want to use
   
   ksukol, Today at 5:28 PM
6. 
   themocrew
   paypal
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:29 PM
7. 
   ksukol
   Ok me too. So can i send you the paypal middleman link?
   
   ksukol, Today at 5:30 PM
8. 
   themocrew
   before we start, may i know the type of device, android or ios?
   
   if it is android, can you provide me with pictures of the townhall in all 4 corners.
   and join a clan called "madsasins" or type "this is for mados" in the chat
   
   ^this is just to prove that you own the account fully
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:33 PM
9. 
   ksukol
   Sorry, i dont do that type of stuff. Just for security reasons because as you probably know selling coc accounts is not allowed.
   Please read this Middleman: Buyers Guide | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.
   
   ksukol, Today at 5:35 PM
10. 
    ksukol
    Read the benefits
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:37 PM
11. 
    themocrew
    im reading the link right now, please give me a moment
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:39 PM
12. 
    themocrew
    may i know if the account is on android or ios to begin with? i dont own an apple device and would be a bummer if i have the account but doesnt work
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:42 PM
13. 
    themocrew
    may i know if the account is on android or ios to begin with? i dont own an apple device and would be a bummer if i have the account but doesnt work
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:42 PM
14. 
    ksukol
    Android, can be linked to iOS
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:42 PM
15. 
    themocrew
    lets begin with the transaction, please send me the paypal link for $25 usd
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:44 PM
16. 
    ksukol
    Ok, here it is
    Buy Now Secure Order Checkout | PlayerUp Middleman
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:46 PM
17. 
    ksukol
    wait
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:47 PM
18. 
    ksukol
    dont buy
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:47 PM
19. 
    themocrew
    its too late
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:49 PM
20. 
    ksukol
    I sent wrong link
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:52 PM
21. 
    ksukol
    
    Can you take the money back?
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:52 PM​
22. 
    themocrew
    
    how do i cancel that payment?
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:52 PM​
23. 
    themocrew
    
    how do i cancel that payment?
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:54 PM​
24. 
    ksukol
    
    I canceled the link
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:54 PM​
25. 
    ksukol
    
    Check your paypal please and sorry
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:55 PM​
26. 
    themocrew
    
    you are right, everything is back to the start
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:56 PM​
27. 
    themocrew
    
    thank you for being honest
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:56 PM​
28. 
    ksukol
    
    Really sorry, now i will send normal link
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:57 PM​
29. 
    themocrew
    
    thats alright, we are humans, we all make mistakes. thank you a lot for not just taking the money and going away with it
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:58 PM​
30. 
    themocrew
    
    if there is something i can do to prove that you are a trusted seller please let me know
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:58 PM​
31. 
    ksukol
    
    Here Buy Now Secure Order Checkout | PlayerUp Middleman
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:58 PM​
32. 
    themocrew
    
    so the link you just sent is the correct one?
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:59 PM​
33. 
    ksukol
    
    yes
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:59 PM​
34. 
    themocrew
    
    ive just paid
    
    themocrew, Today at 6:01 PM​
35. 
    ksukol
    
    Ok fine, nie wait For middleman to contact us. Please note that it can take up ti 24 hours. They are really busy so please be patient.
    
    ksukol, Today at 6:07 PM​
36. 
    themocrew
    
    alright, thank you for your cooperation
    
    please add me on PlayerUp: themocrew
    
    so we can talk right away
    
    themocrew, Today at 6:09 PM​
37. 
    themocrew
    
    i meant to write K_I_K, not playerup
    
    themocrew, Today at 6:10 PM​
38. 
    ksukol
    
    Ok i will
    
    ksukol, Today at 6:13 PM​
39. 
    themocrew
    
    Hello, can I please ask you one more question?​

 

How to Report a Dispute
Please fill out all 9 questions below. You must provide proof or your claim cannot be validated.

1. Date Dispute Happened
June 30, 2016

2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
I'm the Buyer

3. Total Transaction Value
$25 USD

4. Other Parties Username
ksukol

5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
PayPal

6. Other Parties Email Addresses
[email protected]

7. Other Parties Payment Email Address
[email protected]

8. Other Parties Messenger Username
none given

9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below

1. themocrew
   i'll buy right now for $25, let me know your choice. PlayerUp: themocrew
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:25 PM
2. 
   ksukol
   Hello, no problem but do you accept middleman safe service?
   
   ksukol, Today at 5:26 PM
3. 
   themocrew
   ofcourse
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:26 PM
4. 
   themocrew
   before we start i'd like to chat with you
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:26 PM
5. 
   ksukol
   Ok, what payment method do you want to use
   
   ksukol, Today at 5:28 PM
6. 
   themocrew
   paypal
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:29 PM
7. 
   ksukol
   Ok me too. So can i send you the paypal middleman link?
   
   ksukol, Today at 5:30 PM
8. 
   themocrew
   before we start, may i know the type of device, android or ios?
   
   if it is android, can you provide me with pictures of the townhall in all 4 corners.
   and join a clan called "madsasins" or type "this is for mados" in the chat
   
   ^this is just to prove that you own the account fully
   
   themocrew, Today at 5:33 PM
9. 
   ksukol
   Sorry, i dont do that type of stuff. Just for security reasons because as you probably know selling coc accounts is not allowed.
   Please read this Middleman: Buyers Guide | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.
   
   ksukol, Today at 5:35 PM
10. 
    ksukol
    Read the benefits
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:37 PM
11. 
    themocrew
    im reading the link right now, please give me a moment
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:39 PM
12. 
    themocrew
    may i know if the account is on android or ios to begin with? i dont own an apple device and would be a bummer if i have the account but doesnt work
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:42 PM
13. 
    themocrew
    may i know if the account is on android or ios to begin with? i dont own an apple device and would be a bummer if i have the account but doesnt work
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:42 PM
14. 
    ksukol
    Android, can be linked to iOS
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:42 PM
15. 
    themocrew
    lets begin with the transaction, please send me the paypal link for $25 usd
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:44 PM
16. 
    ksukol
    Ok, here it is
    Buy Now Secure Order Checkout | PlayerUp Middleman
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:46 PM
17. 
    ksukol
    wait
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:47 PM
18. 
    ksukol
    dont buy
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:47 PM
19. 
    themocrew
    its too late
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:49 PM
20. 
    ksukol
    I sent wrong link
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:52 PM
21. 
    ksukol
    
    Can you take the money back?
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:52 PM​
22. 
    themocrew
    
    how do i cancel that payment?
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:52 PM​
23. 
    themocrew
    
    how do i cancel that payment?
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:54 PM​
24. 
    ksukol
    
    I canceled the link
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:54 PM​
25. 
    ksukol
    
    Check your paypal please and sorry
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:55 PM​
26. 
    themocrew
    
    you are right, everything is back to the start
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:56 PM​
27. 
    themocrew
    
    thank you for being honest
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:56 PM​
28. 
    ksukol
    
    Really sorry, now i will send normal link
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:57 PM​
29. 
    themocrew
    
    thats alright, we are humans, we all make mistakes. thank you a lot for not just taking the money and going away with it
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:58 PM​
30. 
    themocrew
    
    if there is something i can do to prove that you are a trusted seller please let me know
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:58 PM​
31. 
    ksukol
    
    Here Buy Now Secure Order Checkout | PlayerUp Middleman
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:58 PM​
32. 
    themocrew
    
    so the link you just sent is the correct one?
    
    themocrew, Today at 5:59 PM​
33. 
    ksukol
    
    yes
    
    ksukol, Today at 5:59 PM​
34. 
    themocrew
    
    ive just paid
    
    themocrew, Today at 6:01 PM​
35. 
    ksukol
    
    Ok fine, nie wait For middleman to contact us. Please note that it can take up ti 24 hours. They are really busy so please be patient.
    
    ksukol, Today at 6:07 PM​
36. 
    themocrew
    
    alright, thank you for your cooperation
    
    please add me on PlayerUp: themocrew
    
    so we can talk right away
    
    themocrew, Today at 6:09 PM​
37. 
    themocrew
    
    i meant to write K_I_K, not playerup
    
    themocrew, Today at 6:10 PM​
38. 
    ksukol
    
    Ok i will
    
    ksukol, Today at 6:13 PM​
39. 
    themocrew
    
    Hello, can I please ask you one more question?​

 

Have you disputed the payment in PayPal?

 

I've called PayPal and my bank.

PayPal: I called PayPal, I tried filling a dispute online with them. They said since the status of the application is uncleared, they can't do much about it. They said try and contact the seller and ask for a refund, however, the seller is not cooperating. If that doesn't work, then contact the bank and tell them to block/cancel those transactions. More information about the status of the transaction: It is trying to add funds from the bank to my PayPal balance which will take 6-8 days. Then it says there will be currency conversion.

My bank: They have no idea what I'm talking about since the payments didn't get charged yet/didn't go through. They said a supervisor is going to be calling me as soon as possible to discuss what is going on. Friday is Canada Day and all banks are going to be closed, thus the earliest I can be helped by the bank is Saturday.

There has been more attempts with the seller to clear up the problem which shows not wanting to be communicative. Shown below:

themocrew: You need to cancel the transaction, I know you took down the post. You have been reported. I have your real name and will report you to the police. They will do an international investigation if needed and they will find you. They can also track your ip address from the messages you have sent. Concequences are going to be harsh if you dont return the money

1. Lol
   
   ksukol, Yesterday at 11:36 PM
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   themocrew
   
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   I'm in the middle of filing the report. Last chance
   
   themocrew, Yesterday at 11:38 PM
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   ksukol
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   What report lol?
   
   ksukol, Yesterday at 11:39 PM
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   themocrew
   
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   just for your information, i have pictures of everything, your page, this conversation and everything that you have linked, and everything i clicked on.
   
   the report of fraud and scamming that you are doing. this is your final chance to cancel the transaction between us, or the concequences will be sever.
   
   themocrew, 57 minutes ago
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   ksukol
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   You are funny man
   
   ksukol, 55 minutes ago
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   themocrew
   
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   I fail to find the humor in my texts, Ondrej Hala. Sorry that you are not taking this seriously.
   
   themocrew, 53 minutes ago
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   ksukol
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   U think ii put my real name ? Looool
   
   ksukol, 51 minutes ago
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   themocrew
   
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   Like i mentioned earlier, I fail to find the humor in my texts.
   
   themocrew, 39 minutes ago
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10. 
    
    themocrew
    
    
    I am the scammer? You are the scammer here. I have proof that you copied another person's post. They also commented on your post. I'd like for you to please cancel the middleman transaction between us two.​

 

Before "I am the scammer? You are the scammer here. I have proof that you copied another person's post. They also commented on your post. I'd like for you to please cancel the middleman transaction between us two." , he wrote "You are silly you scammer"
Sorry for the mistake, copy and paste error

also, the user is now banned, so my communication with him will no longer be functional in order to get the dispute/refund

 

Here is how our middleman services works on the site:

Middleman: Buyers Guide | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.
Middleman: Sellers Guide | PlayerUp Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

This guy is not a middleman here. There is only 1 @Middleman service here. That's it.

So yes you're doing the right thing disputing.

I will report this email to paypal [email protected] and get the account shut down. Will speak with the PayPal Manager in the morning so they can forward it to the correct department versus being ignored by regular paypal support.

 

Just relax a bit for now. Don't get too stressed out. You'll eventually get your money back and we'll assist you at this whichever way we can based on the information you provided us with above. Everyone gets scammed at least once in their life. If anything you can use this as a valuable learning experience which you didn't lose or gain anything from it.

 

So for now just let the transaction post to your bank account. Can't do anything yet. For PayPal, it could take several days/couple weeks for them to resolve this. You'll have to be patient as it's not quick to get your money back.

If you want, we can restore his account but the system auto banned him. I don't think he will help you and think it would be better to use your energy towards getting your money back than talking to him. Just our recommendation.

 

it said it was a donation, but hopefully things go well to the good guys!

 

This has been truly a learning experience. I am glad that you are willing to help me. Thank you for that. Hope results turn out good for the good guys!

 

[trigger]Guide - How To Report A Dispute

Automated Response​

If someone you believe has scammed you, please open a Dispute Form Here. Filing a report takes 2 minutes and will then provide us the necessary information to take action against the individual and assist you at resolving the dispute. Thank you for your cooperation on this matter and sorry to hear about the problems you experienced.

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This has been truly a learning experience. I am glad that you are willing to help me. Thank you for that. Hope results turn out good for the good guys!

 

[trigger]Guide - How To Report A Dispute

Automated Response​

If someone you believe has scammed you, please open a Dispute Form Here. Filing a report takes 2 minutes and will then provide us the necessary information to take action against the individual and assist you at resolving the dispute. Thank you for your cooperation on this matter and sorry to hear about the problems you experienced.

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[trigger=by]For: themocrew Re: #12[/trigger]