Transaction ID: 224573 Another report on Natsir Gobel Again having issue with bases he's selling me

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1. Date Dispute Happened
12/1/2015

2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
Buyer

3. Total Transaction Value
37$

4. Other Parties Username
@Natsir Gobel

5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
Paypal

6. Other Parties Email Addresses

7. Other Parties Payment Email Address

8. Other Parties Messenger Username
K..ik: Valkri3

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@Natsir Gobel Has sold me another th9 which i resold via mm (again) last time there was issue but it was resolved, here is the thread: Recalled Account - Transaction ID: 213301215 @Natsir Gobel recovered the account he sold | Page 2 | PlayerUp - Video Game Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform. . Once the last issue was resolved seemed like a honest mistake due to the buyer @Dallas 124 broke his phone so we couldn't tell if it was recovered or he just lost the password now im starting to get to the conclusion that he is selling me fraud/stolen/recovering accounts. This time its a account he sold me for 37$ and the accounts worth add least 130$ which i thought was great deal(kinda skeptical). Thought i could trust him to supply bases after he resolved the last issue.

Had a issue one time someone logged on he said it was him and he will log out of the base. Now that i sold it to @Gnu78 complains to me and says someone is logging on. Can't really understand it but seems like he's having a issue with the account:

@Gnu78 :

@Gnu78 :

Here is where @Natsir Gobel gives me the info to the account:

http://www.playerup.com/conversations/picture-of-th9-acc-we-talk-on-k_ik.95015/

Hoping this is misunderstanding again but now issue with 2 bases seems like he's been supplying me with fraud or stolen bases. I want him suspended until he can explain this away. Personally nice guy with great deals but can't have him ruining my reputation and sales.

 

Once this issue was resolved now that i resold the buyer is complaining someone is logging in and changing base around, quiet tired of people selling fraud bases this isnt first issue which is why i want him suspended.

 

Please post a proof for someone has logged in from another decice. IM NOT the original owner for this acc.
Before i sold this base to u, i have making checking and changed all the acc. Information (google gmail & apple ID)
I think this is happen bcause the first original owner never logged out this acc from his device. I have reach the seller via phone for ask abt the problem.

 

The issue is your having me sell bad bases.... Now im getting complaints from buyers, you should understand this i run a legit business this is 3rd complaint of this month and 2 have been from you. Never really had any issue with fraud bases i sold untill you started supplying me bases. This is the only reason why im reporting you on this i can not buy anything more from you, please resolve this issue and check your accounts before you sell. If you realized someone was logging in why would you sell it to me claim it was you and you'll log out of the device. This is not the first issue why I'm going to have you suspended. Your ruining my sales and giving me bad reputation which hurts my business i don't like it at all, honestly thought you were a good seller till yet again another base you sell me has issues. This is no coincidence anymore, thats my opinion. Most issues i had in short period of time is bases you sold me that i resold, just covering my steps.

 

I hope this is just missunderstanding. @Gnu78 please sent the proof for someone has logged in on this account.

 

It may be my fault, this account I buy from someone, and I tell him to make sure your account is safe, and he says this account is safe and has not connected anymore with another device. I have playing this account for 4 day before i sell this to @Slayer55555 (i have to played this account bcause i want to making sure this account has safe before i selling)
Now, we waiting for @Gnu78 and @Middleman

 

I'm the seller too. Find the best account for a good price.
@Slayer55555 why you want me to suspended ? This is not solved the problem.
I'm not trying to scamming you, I'm seller and wish all my transactions run smooth and safe. And if the future this account I sell have a problem, I will be a responsible person and hope everything is be okay.

 

@Slayer55555 I want to asking something. This is about the base I sell to you.
Can you explain this ?

1. Buyer @Gnu78 making checkout on Thursday at 8.42 PM (in my setting time on forum)



2. In the next day (Friday at 8.23 AM you still bump this thread and say still for sale)




3. Other member give offer for this base (Friday at 1.38 PM), you say like still for selling this base

 

@Gnu78 I'm guessing has trouble using this site telling him to post proof here he posted it in the conversation I'll convert is here. He showing a picture of him talking to another person on the account.

 

thread link
Sold - [Trusted Silver Seller 50+fbs] Max th9 All Lego + lava walls (ONLY 84$!) | PlayerUp - Video Game Accounts Marketplace. Player 2 Player Secure Platform.

 

I cant see the attachment. Please upload the screenshot here. Thanks

 

Was still for sale because the middleman took time to confirm the other persons payment once he did it wasnt for sale anymore don't try flip this on me, Once again asking you fix this order more people have complained about your bases as you can see from your negative feedback you seem to ignore.

Again the issue at hand is you selling accounts fraud dont take a offensive. I will be disputing the money if this issue is not fixed. This has only occurred with You. @Admin please suspend @Natsir Gobel till issue been resolved (again).

 

Why you still asking to Admin to suspended me? this is not making this problem fixed.
I'm not try to flip on you, I'm just asking.

@Admin need you here.
@Slayer55555 I will refund your money, and you need to give me access for this base again. Thanks

 

Why you sent me negative feedback ? I'm just asking.
We need this case has clear, giving me negative feedback and tell to admin to suspended my account not making this case clear.
@Admin @Middleman need you here.

 

Okay, but do you understand why im reporting you i dont care about money i spent on this base.... It's the fact before you sell me account please make sure its safe... Simply ruining reputation i built up over time. This is not first issue i had with you @Natsir Gobel or i wouldnt of reported it would of try to talk it through.

 

And now you leave a false feedbacks for me because you sold me a base with other people accessing it okay lets just wait for @Admin done talking and playing childish games with you.

 

Sure, I have check all the account before I selling,
You must doing same way, check if safe or have any issue before you selling this base for other buyer.

 

Why me give you negative feedback ? Because you give me first negative feedback before this case has clear. simple

 

I did check if the base was safe..... i posted proof of me checking the base 3-4 times a day. I even ask you was that you accesing the account you lied and said it was you and said you were signing off.

Proof is here are you going to deny this?

 

I gave you negative feedback to tell people whats going on, you gave me a false feedback you have never even bought a account from me just wait till @Admin comes. Please in the meanwhile recover the account and make sure its secured when you release it back to @Gnu78 , thats all.