Exploiting Stolen CoC village by original owner

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    1. Date Dispute Happened
    February 22-23rd 2021


    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    I'm the Buyer

    3. Total Transaction Value
    184.37 including the 5.37 merchant fee

    4. Other Parties Username
    McBluesky

    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
    Most likely CC, but could have used paypal as well

    6. Other Parties Email Addresses
    Purchased through McBluesky
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    7. Other Parties Payment Email Address

    No email given
    8. Other Parties Messenger Username
    Skype : mqbluesky
    WhatsApp : +18284073763
    Discord : mcbluesky#5012

    9. Provide All Chat Logs and Additional Information Below
    The chat logs can be found below, the story is, I purchased and account by mcbluesky, I logged in and connected to supercell ID. A few days ago, when I went to log in, it stated the code needed to be updated. I used the passcodes for the email mcbluesky gave, got the code from supercell and was not able to log into the game, said the account did not exist. I reached out to Mcbluesky saying the email did not work as the codes were not coming in when requested so asked for password and new codes. Upon talking to supercell, they wanted me verify the account with which I gave them the only information I had. However, the original owner had all the information, took back the account and changed the email it was linked to. I asked Mcbluesky for the old name of the account as I had changed it to Deshka. He sent me the pic and supercell would not accept as i did not have the original account info that only the first account holder could have. How do I know it is the original owner, many of his friends came to my clan when I first started playing to get the account back to their clan. Some even visited the clan to talk to the original owner, not knowing it was me. I changed the name to deshka to stop getting bothered and now the account is back in his/her original squad where the people who reached out to me under his/her name currently play. I would feel the accounts would have more security than this and feel a refund or an equivalent max account, which I was now should be made available to me since thier are no safeguards to protect people from this happening. This is very frustrating to say the least.

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    Sellers Username: mcbluesky

    Buyers Username: Richard Anshutz

    Buyer Paid: $179

    Buyer Purchased: https://www.playerup.com/middleman/?page_id=5&form=cart&p_key=10697920_37686

    We have created and activated your 3 Way Conversation Ticket. The seller mcbluesky, the buyer and @Middleman have now been added to this ticket. The next step is to have the seller mcbluesky complete the delivery for this transaction. Below contains step by step general guides which you can click on to view how to finalize your delivery.

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    Order Information:

    Order Number: 1130000001021870444
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    Email: [email protected]
    PayPal/CC/Merchant Fee: 5.37
    Total Amount: 184.37

     

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    Hello friends, the account holder has been a soldier for a long time. I asked the seller for information when I wanted to buy this account, but he did not know any information about it. Also, I bought other accounts long before him and he never intends to return them because we have been working together for a while and he does not ruin the partnership because he has an account. Anyone can sign in or you may have shared it by mistake. So if you use genuine Gmail, most of the game information comes from Gmail. Because during the activity here, someone claimed that the account had been returned, but he himself had caused it. And retrieved the account via Gmail. I'm absolutely sure the account holder is unaware of the information. I spoke to him a few days ago and he swore that he was unaware of this. I'm trying to help you, but I'm not sure how
     
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    When I spoke to CoC on the help, the person had to know the date the account was created and the original name. If you discussed this with him a few days ago, get me the information CoC needs such as the original date and name. My guess is, he will say he forgot or cant remember even though as CoC told me, you can go back and look at app history, etc. The person didnt search out a new clan, he went back to his original clan, how many clans are there? Are you saying this is coincidence? I know this was his original clan as his buddies kept visiting my clan to get me over before I changed the name. If noticing else, have him retrieve the account, get it back and we can go through transrfer once he resecures it. He has all the info CoC needs, should be easy to do, unless he doesnt want to give the account back
     
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    Mcbluesky, up above you say the person selling it had not information, do you not verify account prior to selling, is there not a check to ensure they are not stolen accounts, how do you ensure this is not a stolen account when I purchased. If it was stolen, then I was sold stolen merchandise. I assume there is a check and balance you must verify the account prior to being able to sell which would ensure you can verify the account holder. Otherwise, why purchase and account if the original owner can come back to it through supercell by lodging a complaint and then giving all the info. Something doesnt smell right, either you didnt verify the account was legitimate prior to selling or that original owner is playing you and now I lost my account.

    You also go on to say some random person with the email could have taken it, this is false per CoC/supercell. To change the email, the person has to know original purchase date, original name of account and show they had receipts or many other identifying features. So for you to say a random person took the account is not true at all, they would not have that information unless they were the original holder so feel free to contact CoC/supercell, they will tell you the same thing and you can post a pic of their reply-I have nothing to hide in their reply, they will only reinforce what I am saying, but please contact them. I would caution anyone purchasing an account with the origin date, all names used on the account in order, email it is linked to and any previous emails it was linked to, what devices it has been used on, and any receipts of purchase; if you fail to know any of this, the account is not yours and supercell will take it from you. This account was taken back by original owner. So how can we fix this?
     
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    UPDATE, McBluesky believes the original owner stole my account back and is doing everything he can to get it back. I appreciate that and would purchase from people that are willing to help when this kind of stuff happens. I still stand by what everyone needs before purchasing as Ive found out the hard way, they can come right back and steel your account and it is very hard to determine who is honest or not. I really appreciate the help and hope to get my account back but I am getting help and it is very appreciated.
     
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    My account is in this clan and in the original name, CR7 was a part of it, hard to say that is coincidence. Now to get it back.
     
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    Hello, this account was sold 8 months ago. If the account is stolen, the account holder should definitely be notified after a week and get the account back. But a lot of time has passed and because this account is about 8-9 months old and only you know what happened and you as the account holder had to protect it. And important information such as the date and name and account tag available to you or someone who may have accessed Gmail and then the game. Because when you called me, you first said you could not sign in to Gmail, then you said you got a new mobile and need a support code


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    I called him and he says he is unaware of this. He does not remember the history of this account because he has been playing it for several years. He said that this is the name of the account (sajjad.cr7) If he had previously claimed that he did not have the account information, why should he return the account after 8 months? he was forced to cooperate because, I have he identity documents and threatened to sue. But he said he did not know about it and he did not.
     
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    I do not know exactly what tribe he is. But as I said, if I can help, I will not hesitate. In my experience, returning an account or changing Gmail is not difficult. I did this several times to change the Gmail game and provide more security for the buyer, and Supercell confirmed me when I was not the original owner. So this is possible! And it certainly does not need the original owner. Because as I said, the date of creation of most accounts is obtained from the Gmail account and the name and tag of the game are almost available. I suggest you check Gmail. I hope it fix
     
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    I can not fix it. The person changed everything to include email. It’s the original or he wouldn’t be at his original clan. How many clans are there in CoC and he immediately found his original clan. You are being duped as well as I am.
     
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    If he didn’t take it, he gave info to someone else and they took it. The reason I thought I needed new codes on email was because they weren’t coming to my email.
     
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    You have the codes to my email, why don’t you find it and give it to me.
     
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    I would also like to see a copy of conversation where you threatened to sue him/her.
     
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    I do not understand why you feel the original seller is not guilty of recalling the account.

    My evidence:
    1. Original base name before I purchased: Sanjay ‘CR7’
    As you can see in pic, there is a secondary account called CR7. If he/she was not the original owner, they probably wouldn’t know CR7 as I changed name to Deshka.
    2 I was visited by 3 people in the clan he/she is currently in trying to get me to come back. Once I changed the name to deshka, the visits stopped.
    3. Per CoC, the person knew all pertinent information to include origin date, email, what clan he was previously in

    I may be wrong, but there is probably only 2 people involved in this account that have a good amount of info, Mcbluesky and the original owner-and I don’t believe Mcbluesky would do it so that only leaves one party; if you know how it could be done by someone else, please let me know so I can tell supercell how it happened but we both know the original owner took it back. He/she needs to give account back to you and you can give to me. Thank you.
     
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    If the original owner didn’t do it, hard to believe, then he/she knows who did as that was their clan. The should be able to converse with the old clan to tell them to give back or face your threat of lawsuit
     
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    Any updates. I have given pretty good proof to who most likely took my account, I would hope you are not protecting this person due to game deals/business they can bring to you? There are too many coincidences to say this person either 1. Didnt take it themselves or 2. Know who took it. I was a maxed player other than 120-140 walls that still needed finish. I would like my account or an equivalent back. I am not after money as it wouldnt cover what I put into the account, I just want my account back or an equivalent account. If you are so adamant that the original owner did not take it, (which I doubt) have them go to the clan they were previously and talk to their buddy to get it back. Otherwise, what proof do you have they did not take it?
     
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    Hello friends. Like I said, the account holder can't do that because I've already bought other accounts from him. Also, a long time has passed since its sale. About 8-9 months. If the account is stolen, it should be returned to the original owner after a week, not after several months!
    As you know, I delivered the account to you correctly. But it was up to you to protect it. You said I got another new cell phone and tried to log in. But Supercell may detect it as a thief and then lock the account. And the person who has access to the email may pick up information such as dates and devices and send it to Supercell. As I said, this is not a difficult task. Because for a long time only you used that account. By the way, I can only tell you to provide information to Supercell via Gmail.
     
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