Stole Money Scammed out of $400 for a Lords Account

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    1. Date Dispute Happened
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    2. Are You The Buyer or Seller
    Example: I'm the Buyer

    3. Total Transaction Value
    Example: $400 USD

    4. Other Parties Username
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    5. Method Used To Pay or Receive Payment
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    1st contact via email:
    LINE ID: 14157225
    On May 14, 2020 at 10:12 AM Damian Conor <[email protected]> wrote:

    Send your id lind

    On Thu, May 14, 2020, 1:12 PM Damian Conor < [email protected]> wrote:
    Sent

    On Thu, May 14, 2020, 4:50 AM Brian Duncan < [email protected]> wrote:
    Do you have Line? I don't really use whatsapp
    On May 13, 2020 at 5:05 PM Damian Conor < [email protected]> wrote:

    Send your number whatsapp

    On Wed, May 13, 2020, 7:29 PM Brian Duncan < [email protected]> wrote:
    Hello, would like to see screenshots for this: https://www.playerup.com/threads/lords-mobile-account-1-6b-available-for-sale.4384643/

    Thanks!



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    LINE chat that followed

    Seller sent screenshot of the email

    11:05 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 thats me :)
    11:08 TheBest Where u from?
    11:08 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 I'm from the US west coast, how about you?
    11:09 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Why have you decided to quit lords?
    11:09 TheBest download whatsapp sounds good to you
    11:10 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Why use whatsapp instead of line?
    11:10 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 We're already connected here..
    11:10 TheBest I have the images on the laptop and they are many, that's why I say
    11:11 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 I'm using Line on my desktop right now :)
    11:12 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 I'm sure you probably have many buyers looking, it may be easiest to upload the images to imgur.com for free then you can just send the gallery link to people :)

    Seller then sent many screenshots of the account and what appeared to be successful transactions via WhatsApp with a variety of payment methots including Amazon GIftcards


    Seller: This is my account for sale available, brother, the most have been sold. and I already show you my previous sales, I do not use much line, I only took it for you

    12:26 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 ty for ss, at work rn tho so I'll look at em a little later tonight :)
    12:27 TheBest OK brother
    15:57 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 I have a few questions, it seems like you have msold a lot of account, is selling accounts your business? Are you a middleman selling the account for someone else? The listing says "After over 2 years of playing the game, it's time to call it quits." which lead me to believe was looking to sell their personal account.
    15:57 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 The listing also says 1.6b might while the screenshot shows 1.2b, why is it different?
    16:11 TheBest the 1.6b account was sold that's why I offered you this brother
    16:16 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Ahh okay
    16:16 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 And how much is this one?
    16:19 TheBest What is your offert?
    16:20 TheBest And if I am a good seller as you saw in my previous sales, I will show you. successful sales I've had
    16:22 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Can I get an ss of the troops?
    16:24 TheBest Photos
    16:24 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 The screenshots are convincing, though my guild mates who have bought more accts than me are a bit wary. Do you do Paypal goods and services so there is some buyer protection? I'd be happy to pay the 3% fee that PP charges for doing it that way if we make a deal :)
    16:25 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 For ss I mean more like this
    16:25 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Photos
    16:29 TheBest of course paypal is a very good protector always. my clients have been satisfied with my sales. and. How much would you pay by paypal and send by friends or family they take away from you I think that 5 $ for the transaction I send access after having the payment available, as in my previous sales
    16:35 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 I'd prefer to do paypal goods & services so it is possible for me to have some recourse if you don't deliver, I'm happy to pay the additional fee paypal charges for that. I've never bought from a stranger before and would like to be a bit more cautious. Not saying anything negative, just for my piece of mind. What do you think is a fair price for this account?
    16:37 TheBest I have also received payments like this products and service's, tell me an amount and I will tell you if I accept your payment.
    16:40 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Okay thanks, are you a middleman selling the acct for someone else or is it your own acct?
    16:41 TheBest This account I have is mine, the previous ones were from my cousins and my brother, we all played in a room with a lot of desire ... I was the last to sell
    16:42 TheBest I have never sold online, there are many scammers, I always ask for the WhatsApp number so I know that he is a real person
    16:44 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 So whay did you decide to quit lords?
    16:45 TheBest we switch to fortnite right now i have a 103skin account
    16:45 TheBest why do you ask these questions do you think I'm lying
    16:54 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 I'm just wanting to make sure, I showed the acct to my guild mate and he wanted me to ask these questions since he has a lot of friends that have been scammed by buying accounts directly from playerup.
    16:56 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 The price you listed for the 1.6bil one is also a very good price, which is appreciated, but also made him a little worried
    16:57 TheBest That was a reference price that I sold for 850 the 1.6b, this 1.2b I hope to sell at 450 or 500
    16:59 TheBest and you can't download whatsapp on your phone?
    17:01 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Okay, I have downloaded whatsapp, what info do you need to connect with me there?
    17:10 TheBest just your phone number
    17:18 TheBest and you have not told me how much you will offer for the account
    17:21 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 My phone number for whatsapp is 4088416441
    17:21 TheBest +1
    17:21 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Can you also send me an ss of the linked accounts?
    17:21 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Yes, +1
    17:22 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 I'm willing to pay the $500 you mentioned you hoped to get out of it
    17:23 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Where are you from friend?
    17:27 TheBest check your whatsapp bro
    2020.05.19 Tuesday
    16:24 [D0W] Pyromaniac69 Hey bro check whatsapp



    Then we went to whatsapp

    [5:25 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: i live in houston
    [5:35 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: Hi :)
    [5:35 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: Can you send me a ss of the linked accounts?
    [5:35 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: Also, sorry if replies are slow, I am still working.
    [5:36 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: You ever live in Minnesota by chance?
    [5:36 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: that you work, and I told you that the account is linked to gmail. and what is your paypal email to make a payment request
    [5:37 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: we don't have a long distance of hours, why your question
    [5:51 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: The area code on your phone number is Minnesota
    [5:52 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: search the internet and you will see
    [5:53 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: US telephone area codes 281, 346, 713, and 832 serve Houston, Texas, and the surrounding areas. 713 is the main area code, while 281, 832, and 346 are overlay codes that cover the same area. Wikipedia
    [5:53 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: 281 belongs here too
    [5:54 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: you are very careful for all that is good
    [5:54 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: Okay :)
    [5:54 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: that's how we should all be
    [5:54 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: Yes, $500 is a lot of money for me to spend
    [5:55 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: My friend who also sells accounts says to get a screenshot of the linked account before buying to ensure it isn't linked to FB also
    [5:55 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: but it is worth it, for an account like this, then I will pay $ 450 or $ 500 I can accept $ 450, send me your email linked to your paypal account so I can send you a payment invoice
    [5:56 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: It is not linked to Facebook since I do not use that application
    [5:56 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: I know I'm probably more difficult than others and I apologize for that, just trying to be careful cause don't want to lose the money on a scam. Not that I think your scamming, but I'm following the advice of my friends who have been scammed before buying lords accounts
    [5:57 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: He says needs SS like this
    [6:07 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: Thank you, I really appreciate your patience with me
    [6:07 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: He is asking for the IGG ID in the ss
    [6:09 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: I've used him for a few months for buying gems and he also sells accounts, so really just going off what he says as I trust him to know what to look for as I haven't bought accounts like this before. Seriously appreciate you working with me on this
    [6:11 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I will not give that until I see the payment and I send the access to the account I think that your friend is already going over the line if he were a person who was going to steal only money I would not send even my personal number and much less would you like in some things you have asked for, I always send the complete information after I receive and have the money available in my paypal brother, if you are not sure of your purchase, go and buy elsewhere and if it does not go well, you return to me
    [6:11 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: And why don't you buy an account from him?
    [6:21 PM, 5/14/2020] Brian: He is cheap for gems but expensive for accounts is why
    [6:22 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: that abuser is a friend, I have had many sales. and I don't think that's what he says. but it's ok if you don't want to buy, I'll wait for another so simple buyer.
    [6:22 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: bro
    [6:22 PM, 5/14/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: yes but freedom to sell I also have sales that support me
    [10:24 AM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Hey
    [2:31 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: remember me??
    [3:04 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Yes I remember, chat log is saved. What's up?
    [3:05 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Create a small group where I have several subjects who bought an account and I will add you so you can see that if I am trustworthy
    [3:43 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Sure that could work. Also, if you would be open to it, could also use playerup.com as a middleman. Basically when the order is placed thru them, they take the money immediately, then you give me login details so I can verify account and secure it, then the funds are released to you by playerup, which protects both us us, cause no way for me to steal it cause playerup has the money and will release to you if I change login details on acct, and if account doesnt exist or isn't correct then I can ask them to stop the transaction. Which would pretty much guarantee protection for both us.

    I looked up their fees for the seller, which is 2% + $0.99 for using paypal. I'd be happy to cover that fee for the extra hassle it puts on you. I got paid on Friday and can buy today if you're willing.
    [4:34 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: there are my sales as I showed you in screenshots brother and also create a reference group because I know you are looking for someone legitimate for your purchase there you can see what are several
    [5:20 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Thanks, appreciate it. You willing to use playerup? I can buy tonight :)
    [5:22 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I only make sales directly, as you said before Paypal protects you in your purchase and you already saw my sales you saw my references there is no problem with my sales directly
    [5:50 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Alright, gotta ask one more question, and not trying to talk myself out of a deal here, but why sell the account for $450? I see plenty of legit bil might accounts going for closer to $700-$900
    [5:53 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: those account was 1.4b and 1.6b, that's why those prices were, I just wanted to put a price the size of your wallet.
    [6:10 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: So?
    [6:17 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Aight last few questions cause I'm confused on a few points now..

    1. In the references there is someone with the nickname TheBest who says he bought from you. But when you messaged me on Line the first time your own username was TheBest. Is that you or someone else?

    2. I see 2 listings on PlayerUp.com. The one I contacted you about originally was the 1.6bil account which said to email [email protected]. Which you replied to and here we are. However, I saw a 1.2bil acct I was interested in and also emailed them but got no response. That listing was by a different account and said to email [email protected]. However, it appears that listing has your phone number (281) 942-7954.

    Given this, I assume the 1.2bil acct you are looking to sell m…
    [6:23 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I explain, I am selling accounts, my brother helps me, you will see if you want, write to me at the 2 emails and you will see that I will answer the same thing ... since one email is mine and the other is from my brother .... the mail linked to the account is Benjamin's and Damián is where to receive the payment ... since I cannot sell you the account and receive the payment in the mail where I have the Lord mobile account linked and man you ask many questions. .. I have shown you with people who have bought me and still you ask another question you should have been a lawyer
    [6:36 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Okay fair enough, I'd prefer to be abundantly cautious than lose the money lol. So what's up the first question about The Best username? And is the price now $350 as per the updated listing?

    Again, appreciate your patience with me, know that I'm a serious buyer and not trying to waste your time, just those last 2 then I'll be ready to buy. And if it all works out I will be happy to join your list of references and will sing your praises.
    [6:38 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: place 350 why could not find a buyer ... but we were at 450? For lowering the price in player up I will leave you at 400 unless you are generous and pay $ 450 .... because it is a great account at a great price
    [6:44 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Okay, $400 works. If it goes well I'll send some extra after the successful transaction.

    What about The Best? That you, or someone else? Weird that they say they bought from you but also your own username on Line..
    [6:46 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I line stop using it ... why I do not like selling that application is rare for me, send me the email associated with your Paypal account to send you the payment invoice
    [6:53 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: ?
    [6:56 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: [email protected] is my paypal
    [7:02 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: ok wait
    [7:07 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I was afraid that this would happen by sending as a service God already happened to me 2 times this is the 2 with you
    [7:07 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I will refund you what a nuisance
    [7:07 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: paypal
    [7:09 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Hah, after all that effort too smh.
    [7:09 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: tell me that you had the money in the paypal balance and that you did not pull it from your credit or debit card
    [7:09 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Did it from credit card
    [7:10 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: the worst the money will return to you in 3 or 5 days now we have to wait for that
    [7:11 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: I see in the SS that PP wants some verification ok the top right to reenable full functionality on your account. Can you just provide that info? PP made me give them my social security number to get verified a few years ago to fix that same issue which I had in the past
    [7:13 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I already did it 2 times, and they left me alone, but I had to wait almost 20 days and then the refund would come faster. That is why I told you to pay me by amazon gift card or send a payment by friends and family, only I did not mention it again because I do not want you to generate mistrust in me, but you will see when the money comes from again you will see that if I am in word
    [7:16 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: the refund was marked in your paypal account bro
    [7:21 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Damn, paypal really messing up. Can you create a new PP account to have it work on? For some reason PP doesn't seem to care as much for new accounts.

    A few years back I had one of those verification issues I couldn't get past and had to create a new PP account and re-link my bank account to it, they didn't seem to need the same verification on that new account.
    [7:24 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I would have to do it by another email and send it as friends and family, or try to buy 2 Amazon gift cards, it also works for 200 if we do not go with PayPal tell me if it will do it for Amazon, if I do not create a new account for you to go to paypal againC
    [7:25 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: It happens that I have had many sales and that happens I always inform you that it is a lords mobile account and even so they get tedious
    [7:25 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: bro
    [7:27 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I will be with my wife's paypal
    [7:42 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Answer me are you there that we will make paypal or amazon? I already have my wife's account here
    [7:42 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: brian
    [8:38 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Sorry mate was eating dinner
    [8:38 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: are you busy you don't answer
    [8:38 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Go ahead and send a request to my pp using your wife's :)
    [8:39 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Gotta do G&S still tho
    [8:39 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: ok but send as friends and family to avoid this again
    [8:39 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Go
    [8:41 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: send it like I told you so paypal doesn't get tedious
    [8:48 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: wait
    [8:48 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: wait
    [8:48 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: don't send
    [8:48 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Waiting
    [8:50 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I would almost have to pay you back paypal I limit my wife too,
    [8:50 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: check
    [8:51 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Thank goodness I stopped you
    [8:54 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I don't know what happens tell me what we can do?
    [8:55 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Darn paypal. Is there any way to verify that account? Let me check something..
    [8:57 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: If I have done it, associate everything right now, but when I was doing it, they did the same limitation, perhaps because my wife has not had Paypal ... but because you do not pay for Amazon, I send you the link and it is easier there. there are restrictions
    [8:58 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I sent you the request. and I started to associate the card details and poom again Paypal
    [9:00 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: So did associating your card with the account fix the issue then?
    [9:00 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954:
    [9:02 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: it was not rather part of the problem. It was lucky that I realized why if you were not going to have another 400 withheld and it is sad that and it is not decent Paypal
    [9:03 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: here you can buy two codes of 200 $ you send it to my email and they arrive in a period of 5 to 10 minutes
    [9:03 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: but buy one I tell you that I will arrive and then you buy the other
    [9:06 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: I'm not comfortable doing giftcards as that gives me no protection, I actually watch some youtube channels based on how scammers work and they always ask for giftcards. Not that I think you're a scammer mind you, but I'd rather not do giftcards.

    If you wanna do playerup then they have option for you to do a direct wire transfer to your account once funds are received from them, so paypal issues shouldn't be a problem. It protects us both and I'll cover the 2% tranfer fee they charge.
    [9:07 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Could also use a middleman in PlayerUp as well..
    [9:09 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: but I have received payments from Amazon to the boy who sold him the 3 account, he paid me with a physical gift card, I already show you ... and I changed it for Paypal because he did not have how to use Paypal so it was the option that had, I will create another Paypal with the data of my father so that you feel safe brother
    [9:12 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: If we do not solve with my father's paypal then, I think I will wait for another buyer, since it really escapes from our hands at 2
    [9:12 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Okay, I'm fine as long as I can do good and services thru paypal :)
    [9:23 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: [email protected]
    [9:25 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: send the payment, send it as friends and family or goods and services
    [9:28 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Okay, are you going to send a request or do you want me to send it?
    [9:29 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: if so send it, if you send it by friends and family it would be the best
    [9:32 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Will goods and services be okay? If all goes well I will send some extra after as a tip. But really want to di G&S so am protected
    [9:34 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Okay then, let's fight for everything to be fine, that's why I don't send a request for payment so they don't limit again so send with goods and services
    [9:34 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Okay Let's hope it works!
    [9:37 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Wait
    [9:38 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: love you Paypal
    [9:38 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Issue again?
    [9:38 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Was just about to send you an SS and ask you to confirm the email before sending
    [9:39 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: GDI
    [9:39 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I think it is when you start to send the limitation arrives
    [9:40 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: ******* paypal
    [9:41 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Any way that you can have your wife verify her PP account?
    [9:43 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: If you only gave me a vote of confidence by amazon, they really limited us 3 accounts in one, I made you a refund and I received the refund notification in your Paypal, I think that's why Paypal also protects you ... I will show you the gift cards that They have sent me by mail and in physical and they are clients brother ... trust me ...
    [9:51 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Aight, so if Friends and Familt still works how about I send $200 now and $200 after you send account details? Then we both trust each other 50%. You've done right by me sending the refund and I've shown ability and willingnes to pay the $400.
    [9:53 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: that's a good option but so we could go through Amazon
    [9:59 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Okay. I'd really like avoid amazon giftcards tho cause I share the account with my parents and would prefer them to not to see me buying $400 in Amazon gift cards that get emailed to someone...
    [10:00 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: What about venmo?
    [10:00 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Also ask about the group that has paid for Amazon and you will see that there is the boy with the 3 accounts and another ... and one from the Indian, only that he does not authorize me to add him to the group
    [10:05 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: you tell him that it is a payment method there like these or maybe you can buy the card in physical in the store
    [10:07 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: If you want, as I say, ask the group so you can see that everyone will support you to send because I have really made transactions with them and everything has turned out well, you are still afraid ... but we can do as you say you send 200 and then I send you access and then you send access, that is if you send access because the gmail account linked to the lords mobile account. It does not have a recovery email or a recovery phone number, I leave it without it so that the person who buys it puts everything in his own way
    [10:08 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: so if you send $ 200 and then I send you access, you send the other $ 200 don't go with those $ 200 in your paws
    [10:15 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Venmo takes like 5min to setup is completely free to transfer the money to your bank, wouldn't you rather have cash in your account than amazon credit?

    I can do a physical card if you really want but gunna have to wait until tomorrow afternoon after I get off work. Can do venmo now tho.

    And yeah, as you saw I am more than willing to send the $400 total, so if do $200 before account details I will absolutely send the $200 after. My risk is higher as if I send $200 gift card I cannot recover that if you don't deliver, whereas if I don't deliver the second $200, you will still have $200. But I will deliver if you do.

    As you can see I'm very cautious because I dislike scammers very much as it is highly unethical, I think we are both probably two ethical ind…
    [10:17 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I have already tried all the payment methods there I tried to do what you say and they won't let me, venmo, uphold, skrill, payonner. it always works for me is paypal and amazon, uphold almost works but the boy who was going to pay for there managed to pay for paypal and we left uphold
    [10:19 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: ask in the group do it, maybe someone will answer you. I am just trying to sell you, if you are not looking for another seller because I really don't know what solution to get us, maybe paypal will work tomorrow or not, but I'm very sorry PayPal has been very tedious
    [10:25 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: We can go to Amazon or not if we do not try tomorrow with PayPal again ... if I do not have to tell you you will have to find another account, I am very sorry
    [10:26 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I'm already a little sleepy
    [10:31 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: I understand that the online ones won't work for you, but I'm honestly just curious as to why, I set venmo up for my mom last month in 3 mins and had payment working, all it should need is email and a credit card.

    Let's work on this tomorrow, I know it is later for you than it is for me and I'm already about to go to bed for work tomorrow.

    If none will work I can go to the store tomorrow evening after work and get some giftcards. Can show you both cards with receipt and send first card code, then you send account details, then I send 2nd card code.
    [10:32 PM, 5/17/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: if we try tomorrow brother rest
    [10:36 PM, 5/17/2020] Brian: Okay ttyl, night bro
    [5:34 AM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Hi bro
    [1:48 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: U there?
    [2:39 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Sorry mate, in meetings all day at work
    [3:52 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: and you're a little free now
    [7:59 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: When are you going to be here?.
    [8:10 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Just finished
    [8:14 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: are you going to your house ???
    [8:16 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: At my house, I can go get the cards now tho. I just wanna confirm before I give get my mask on and drive to the store that we can do it where I give you first card details, then you give me account details. Then I give you second card info. If that works for you I will go get them now.
    [8:19 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: you are going to buy two gift cards of 200 each, it sounds good if I was just waiting for you to write to me, all day I was waiting for you
    [8:20 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Sorry, I was working a lot today. I didn't even take my lunch break.
    [8:21 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Okay, since we are agreed to first $200 card, then account details, then 2nd $200 card, I will go buy them at the store now.
    [8:23 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Yes,ok send me a message i will be here
    [8:29 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Hey bro I was just about to walk out the house when I had a thought, I know PP had issues with good and services, if I send via friends and family, would it work? Would be easier than going out to the store if so
    [8:34 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: but with amazon we would not have withholding it would not be the same if you sent 200 for friends and family and then you send 200 more and if Paypal retains them or limits I would have to reimburse you ... in my point of view amazon has no restrictions. ..
    [8:35 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Okay, no worries, be back in 20ish mins
    [8:35 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: an example 200 fall perfectly and then I give you access and if they limit the account in the second payment I would have to reimburse you
    [9:03 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Lol, 711 said I needed cash to buy cards, ofc I don't have $400 cash, and their ATM machine was broken. Then go to another atm, then Safeway, where I was unable to find an amazon giftcard, now back to 711
    Smh
    [9:05 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: you failed to get the cash?
    [9:22 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: I had to go to a different place for the ATM

    Then I provided a picture of the first giftcard

    [9:24 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Okay bro, there is the first $200 card
    [9:26 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Ok go to amazon
    [9:27 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Ok6
    [9:27 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Why tho? Arent you the one that has to redeem the code on your amazon account?
    [9:29 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I already sent the code to my brother
    [9:30 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: they exchange it for a cash balance
    [9:30 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Okay great. Once it is redeemed pls send me the account info
    [9:38 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: You there bro?
    [9:40 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I was finishing eating, let's wait for my brother to reply that I manage to change and send you access
    [9:40 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Yes , here bro
    [9:41 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Okay no problem :)
    [9:52 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I will call, do not answer me
    [9:52 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Why?
    [9:52 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Idk
    [9:53 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: maybe it's on the computer in fortnite
    [9:53 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Wait
    [9:53 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Oh, you mean you called him but he did not answer okay. Got it.
    [9:54 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Join his game in fortnite and kill him :)
    [9:59 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I had to call the neighbor, he was in fortnite and if he wants I will give you access to my account in fortnite I play little, I like to sell more
    [10:00 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Thanks but I don't play fortnite :)
    [10:01 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: I played PUBG a lot a while ago but haven't played in a while.
    [10:23 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: My brother is placing this condition, now I don't know what to do.
    [10:27 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Dude cmon we agreed beforehand to do it this way. I can't send the other gift card before access because then I could be out the full $400, that's why we wanted to do it this way. Can you show him the paypal transaction we did earlier? It shows I send money because I already tried to send the full $400 and as you see I have both the giftcards already ready to send to you
    [10:31 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: I literally just want the account, please tell him about the hours we spent speaking because I was scared of getting scammed. And I'd rather be out $200 on a scam than $400, so I really need the account details before I can send the other card. You're brothers right? You and I made a deal, tell your brother he needs to trust you and your judgement. I legit just want the account and have shown I'm willing to pay the $400 because I already did via paypal
    [10:31 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: He was with me, I went to his house at that moment, and he saw everything, only he was upset by what was happening with Paypal ... and he left, and he is not always a bit # ... but on my side you are you ... I'll try to talk to him I'll call him ..
    [10:33 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Thank you, please make him agree
    [10:53 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I had a great speech with him and he is upset with me, why he had already told the subject of the change that he would send $ 400 and then receive the 400 to free the account ... and he says to hold that. I insulted him for being rude
    [10:55 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I just hope you trust me the same yesterday I also made a refund and I said that if you could not go with me in this sale I would continue on my way since Paypal was tedious as always ... I will send access but my brother placed that condition
    [11:00 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: I'm sorry, I really can't, if I send the other card then I have no recourse if you don't send account details. If you provide details and I don't give the second card then you still have the $200, so I'm out a lot more money if you cannot deliver.

    If you can't get your brother to agree and send the details then I'll have to ask for a return of the $200 I already paid. It would be a real shame though with how much effort we have both already put into this. I know you had to lower the price already on playerup, I'm paying more than the price there and you can have the full $400 tonight and save us both the hassle of a refund if he can agree
    [11:04 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: We made a deal already, if he is a business man then he should honor the terms of the deal we made as I intend to honor my end. If he can provide the details then we can be done with this tonight and you can have the money and I can have the account as agreed. I have to sleep in the next hour though because I have a meeting early tomorrow morning, and I know it is even later for you than me because you are in Houston
    [11:09 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I called him and he tells me that the other man has already used the 200 card that the other is waiting for 400 to confirm and give the 400 to him ... there are no refunds on Amazon. if you want proof that I use the 200 card, enter it in Amazon if it catches you, keep your 400 because my brother will lose the sale for his nonsense ... but the anger is with the full payment ... if he grabs you use your 400 why Amazon does not give a refund ... forgive me for this really ... use the code you sent me first and if it catches you we tend to leave this up to here. if you don't have to send the other 200 why won't you do anything with those 200 and I just want to send you access but my brother said that condition
    [11:13 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/?lang=en-US
    [11:15 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: It shows redeemed. So if you can't send the login info then please buy a $200 amazon gift card and send me the code for that as repayment. Or are you saying you will gift me games from epic game store?
    [11:15 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: With that link?
    [11:16 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I will send you access to my fortnite account so you can see that if it sent access ... you enter with the mail. and the key then ask for the code by mail and I will send it to you ... so you can see what I fulfill in sending access ....



    [email protected]
    Agus97877
    [11:16 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: Enter to link
    [11:18 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Ok
    [11:20 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: 608927
    [11:22 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Okay about this, when I paid you via PP goods and services, it said the money would be available to you after a wait period. How about I send you $200 via paypal, then you give me access, because then you have they money it is just on hold with paypal, then after I have account info I'll give you the amazon gift card and you refund the PayPal? Will that satisfy your brother because it will show receipt of the other $200?
    [11:31 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: is that I can not have another Paypal account ... and since we are with the other boy, he is waiting for the other code already in what we are, but as you saw if he sends access and you see the transactions of that fortnite account if he has money added and everything ... I will also send access to the mobile account of lords ... you will not do anything with that other 200 brother code
    [11:37 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Oh I can do a lot with $200 in amazon lolz I buy a lot from amazon. sigh okay dude. I'm going to seriously put my trust in you here..

    Then I provided a picture of the second one


    [11:42 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: There. Please send access.
    [11:43 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: And please send soon before I have to sleep.
    [11:52 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I had not seen the message ... I will send it to him
    [11:53 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Okay, thank you. Please ask him to be quick after he redeems as I really need to sleep soon.
    [11:53 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Really putting my trust in you with this
    [11:57 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I already sent it to you, and calm with me everything will be successful and you will see, now it's just a matter of waiting for my brother send the code to the subject of the change
    [11:57 PM, 5/18/2020] Brian: Okay thank you
    [11:58 PM, 5/18/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: G?
    [12:01 AM, 5/19/2020] Brian: Yes, it is a G
    [12:10 AM, 5/19/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I am now waiting for my brother, he does not answer, I call him and he does not grab me, I feel sorry to call the neighbor, it is already 02:09 a.m.
    [12:10 AM, 5/19/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I think he fell asleep
    [12:11 AM, 5/19/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: we made him wait too long what the hell this was all chaos
    [12:11 AM, 5/19/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: I am with my eyes open here with you so that you do not think badly and now that it happened it does not appear
    [12:12 AM, 5/19/2020] Brian: sigh okay. Please send details once he is awake. I must sleep, I hope to have access tomorrow morning please.
    [12:14 AM, 5/19/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: If I am also sleepy I will go to sleep, and to what I send access I send access to you
    [12:14 AM, 5/19/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: bro
    [12:16 AM, 5/19/2020] Brian: Okay, goodnight dude, I look forward to finally getting access tomorrow. Goodnight:)
    [12:17 AM, 5/19/2020] +1 (281) 942-7954: see you later broo


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