Stole Account Scammed by buyer

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    That was clearly a slideshow not a video, My demand is clear, a full video of you scrolling down through all your whatsapp message from the beginning to the end.

    You didn't provide what I asked for.

    This way you're just making it easier for the other part to win this dispute.

    Dispute cases like this usually take long time, and everyone involved at this dispute should cooperate as much as he could in order to resolve it.
     
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    The other part has not provided evidence that he has given me Facebook account.
    The other part did not provide evidence that the account is his.
    The other part attempted to change the name but as my passport is on the Facebook system, Facebook returned my original name on the profile. I have evidence also that my passport is on the Facebook system. Like I informed you by law it is against the law for playerup/middleman to take funds when a product was not sold to me by the company. My bank has also informed me that any third party making such a accusation would mean it is a civil matter. I provided the bank with evidence of receipt from middleman and also you are not requesting the seller to provide any proof that the account was given to me. I am satisfied with what my bank has informed me and I will seek the matter through the bank. I no longer have the whattsapp messages and whattsapp can not be photoshopped at all.
     
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    stop lie , just post full whatsapp video dumb , without any deleted messages , you got account and now leaving place ..
     
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    The account he is claiming is for sale for 100$ but middleman/playerup have stolen 450$
     
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    you payed 450 and now again trying to say bullshit ..stop just stop it
     
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    Ask the scammer. The account he apparently is claiming I stole, is it the account that was for sale for 450$
     
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    Because i will prove something to show he is lying. Ask him.
     
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    He already did that, here:


    On sec 0:25 you can see this screenshot where the seller sent you the facebook account pass:
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    Then you managed to login to the account.

    So now it's your turn to prove the opposite.
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    Ofcourse any photo could be easily photoshopped.
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    Didn't you pay $450 via middleman? so you were satisfied buying it with that price. besides we're not here to discuss the account value. we're working to know whom that account belongs to.
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    The account on playerup, if you check is not the same
     
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    Where is the evidence of him providing me a Facebook account. All I see is a password I requested him to give me after he had changed my Facebook details and security, also if you request from playerup/middleman in regards to the account he had put up for sale, is not the same account he is claiming that has been stolen. I request you ask him if the account he put up on Facebook is the same account that was stolen. When he replies then check with middleman for the info in regards to the account that was for sale and you will get a clear understanding. That is all I am asking you to do if that is possible. Just him if the same account that was for sale is the same account that was apparently stolen?
     
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    stop trying ro proove your self here ...what did you wanna say now , again bullshit ?
     
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    Alright then, from where did he mange to get that password at first place?

    From you? prove it then!

    Like I told you, all you have to is to record a video showing your full conversation with the seller on whatsapp including the part where you sent him the account info.

    Any other arguing regarding this won't make much of difference. we have came to a point where we need that video from you so we can look it further.
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    I will make sure to check it out with the @Middleman

    But For Now, we are just focusing here on the property of this pubg account that has the ID:5435533261

    After that, we can look further if it was the account that the seller advertised or not.
     
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    I don’t have the whattsapp convo as I blocked him and deleted him from my whattsapp. I managed to take screenshots of my evidence and removed him
     
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    I no longer have him so he can no longer contact me
     
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    This is your own problem.
    Why would anyone involved in a dispute case remove the docs that save his rights? I find it hard to believe.
    Now you're unable to prove your claim.

    With that being said, the facebook account linked to the pubg account both belong to the seller @ILuxa88
    You need to return it back exactly like you got it.

    You're supposed to get your refund after this being resolved.
     
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    The account is not his and there is no proof that the account is his. I have Facebook proof that the account is mine as Facebook also have my passport stored on there
     
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    And it’s not my problem because the scammer did not sell me anything at all and when the scammer can provide proof by way of message of any sort that I received MY OWN account then I would be liable to give him my account which I won’t be doing. He has not provided proof that he gave me an account, also he has not provided any messages that he would have sent me if that was true. I provided all the documents and also provided all the evidence and also me requesting the password for my Facebook account that he changed and then he laughs about it. You have no right to make ANY judgement at all without any solid evidence. You are saying it is your BELIEF that is based on your opinion which is prejudice as it is an option not based on facts. I’m not going to sit here and tire myself anymore. I have provided evidence and my bank have already issued a dispute with middleman already if you check and middleman have not provided me with what I paid for and also I have proof of this so you cannot say I will get my money once I give the scammer MY account. I will define rly get all the money that playerup owe me and no matter what you say or believe I have proof and also provided my bank with proof, so you go ask middleman about the dispute that has been raised with them by my bank. I also informed my bank that a scammer is claiming he sold me the account. The question I was asked was, Did middleman secures the transaction and give you what you paid for and my answer was no as it was a void transaction because the scammer did not want to accept the payment when there was so many ways of him receiving the money. Another reason why playerup have to Obie’s by rules and regulations is because a product was for sale on their website and the product was not given to me by them when they are the secured party, also the account that the scammer was selling is not the same account he is claiming to have been stolen. Middleman can verify this and also the screenshots I have of the original account which was meant to be sold on the website so that is a matter that middleman have no say in and nor do you
     
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    cool story bro , no take a real , sended what i have everything , from your phone videos , with you and another also . facebook has my original mail and name which was registered ( it showing when you trying to recover it ) account name is also was like my facebook MaxWell with clan tag . So also there was that account was in my clan which has a right to delete members ( i made already videi with it ) and type id of account to add in friends and wonder WOOP it the same acc , so dont say what facebook was yours . "for sure again" facebook recovering showing only original name and mail which was bounded , and it also showing my another number so dont be like an love you here
     
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    i see a message from facebook with code to bound my phone , so its cool but you may have proov what account is still valid and works , support know id of account
     
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